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BISGARD: Yes, are you asking, is the money paid to the State for the use of public land? I think <br />the answer is yes. <br />VAN PERNIS: Is money paid to the State on every occasion of private use of public land? Well, by <br />"every occasion" mean, whatever entity uses the public land pays money to the State? <br />MASON: I can say, I can say yes—if you don't mind, Craig— <br />CARR SMITH: Mr. Mason. <br />MASON: Yes. If you don't mind— <br />CARR SMITH: Okay. <br />MASON: I can say, the reason why is because Ivas;:one of the main'guys that have been in stages. <br />I actually had offered. When we went to create the'lease and stuff and. the development of the direct <br />this process, there were other companies that are actually there, Signature Corporation—and this has <br />to do with Keahole FBO I LLC—and I was the only guy who offered eight million at first. And the <br />thing was that nobody was actually offering much of anything but a dollar, or actually revocable <br />permits was only paying like only a' couple of hundred dollars a month. So the thing that came, what <br />came through with the Keahole FBO `I inthe process that `actually got created, started through the <br />DLNR Ethics Board, everybody, and I was,' <br />the one that's getting ;pretty much nailed by everybody, <br />but, including, you know, Legislation, Governor's Office, the Finance Department, I actually took <br />myself through in the competition. of beginning stage in 2015. Whenwe put our application in for <br />property, they are in the ,south end; there were; there were about twelve other applicants. We were <br />the only local guys who ;was there; ,pretty much, -me';, -'everybody -else was like literally only looking <br />for themselves in development and'not the industry itself and the support of education and the local, <br />the local government. So the_.thing that -came out, there's actually, the lease that is in that you can, <br />you know, people cadg- et information to is technically Iat that time, I think, was Signature <br />Corporation and Air Service Hawai`i:,was paying:about I think 40, about 40,000 when started, you <br />know, for this 40,000 annual= rate. We"actually came in in the beginning annual rate, was about 500, <br />or 474,000; 39744. So, yes, money actually, it goes, the lease and the money goes to the State, and it <br />increases annually, and it goes all ,into the -term and extent to the lease itself. <br />CARR SMITH: Okay; .thank you; Mr. Mason. Anybody else have questions? <br />YATES: I do. <br />CARR SMITH: Faye, go ahead. <br />YATES: You mentioned something about the—Mr. Mason—taxes that are collected that would <br />help us. Now, I don't know who the "us" is. I'm just wondering about it. The airports comes under <br />the State, correct? <br />MASON: Yes. <br />14 <br />DRAFT <br />