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FUKE: I think I would respond in two ways: One is that the traffic study prepared by Mr. Okaneku was reviewed and approved by the State Department of Transportation not in 2005 but in conjunction with the application before you, so it's fresh; and the other thing, too, is like, you know, we've seen a lot of development residential activity on the south side, and so the whole idea behind this project is to have people move closer to town such that you minimize the long commute that a lot of these people have. VAN PERNIS: You think traffic, or do you think people are going to live closer to town? FUKE: Closer to town, I think that that's what the CDP was talking about - - - housing more in a cohesive area - - - kind of sprawled out; if you have it all sprawled out, what - - - exacerbate the traffic condition. But I think - - - a little bit more - - - that 'supposedly would represent - - - VAN PERNIS: - - - CARR SMITH: Thank you. = VAN PERNIS: - - - traffic - - - CARR SMITH: Mark, we are taking another break from yo, and hearing from other commissioners. VAN PERNIS: Well, - - - longer, let me finish- questioning:_ ,` .- CARR SMITH: - - -' you'are not VAN PERNIS: It's only.one more question. CARR SMITH: Okay;,,do your one more' question. VAN PERNIS: Isn't the traffic study dependent on the widening of the highway and/or the construction of the Alii Drive bypass? OKANEKU: No; it -is not. CARR SMITH: Here -you,go: �'Okay— VAN PERNIS: Well— CARR SMITH: —Mr. Vitousek, you are next. VITOUSEK: Yes, I was just wondering if we did take a close look kind of item by item at the proposed conditions and see if those conditions or if we can add conditions, that would then satisfy the County's concerns and lead to us to moving forward with this one way or another. 34 DRAFT