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VAN PERNIS: Well, just, just let me say that Spring Development itself testified that it was going <br />to be the developer. <br />CARR SMITH: That's fine, because that's in our minutes. It's— <br />VAN PERNIS: And Mr. Vitousek brought up it was difficult to negotiate without knowing who the <br />real developer was. <br />CARR SMITH: All right, so we've got a motion on the table. Is this a roll call vote or—would staff <br />or somebody help me? Corp. counsel, what kind of vote am I taking? <br />YOSHIMOTO: Madam Chair, l would recommend a roll call vote. <br />KAY: I'm prepared to do that, Madam Chair. <br />CARR SMITH: Thank you, Christian. Go ahead., <br />KAY: All right. Commissioner Vitousek? <br />VITOUSEK: Aye. <br />KAY: Commissioner Kealoha? <br />KEALOHA: Aye. <br />KAY: Commissioner.Newberg? <br />NEWBERG:- Aye-..- <br />KAY: <br />yerKAY: Commissioner Van Pernis?" ` <br />VAN PERNIS:, No. <br />KAY: Commissioner Yates? <br />YATES: Aye. <br />KAY: And Chair Carr Smith? <br />CARR SMITH: Aye. <br />KAY: Thank you. Madam Chair, motion carries, five -one. <br />CARR SMITH: Thank you. So, with some of the testimony stricken, are the Commissioners <br />completely comfortable with Mr. Van Pernis being a part of this case going forward? Anybody have <br />any objections, I guess I should say? <br />11 <br />DRAFT <br />