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VAN PERNIS: —I can be fair and impartial, and the information in this write-up was all contained, <br />all contained, all the facts were contained in the information submitted by the applicant - - - etcetera. <br />I don't think it's improper for me to say I drive these streets and this is what I observe. Other people <br />here have talked about what they have experienced in Waikoloa. I think that our job is to represent <br />the people of Kona, not the developer. <br />CARR SMITH: The developer is also a resident of Kona. I don't think that's the issue here. And <br />maybe it's not, even if it's not, property owners have rights. And so I think our job here is to listen <br />to the staff recommendation, listen to the applicant, listen to public testimony and make a decision <br />based on that, not, not based on an email from you outside of the meeting. Mike, go ahead. <br />VAN PERNIS: I am a commissioner, I think I'm entitled -to my opinion— <br />' I <br />CARR SMITH: You are, within the— <br />VAN PERNIS: —and express it. I sought expertise from the staff and counsel on how to <br />disseminate at virtual meetings - - - <br />CARR SMITH: - - - <br />VAN PERNIS: - - - virtual meeting. It wouldn't have happened, if this meeting was live - - - virtual <br />- - - this at a live meeting. I handed it out to save -time at a real- meeting. <br />VITOUSEK: This <br />CARR SMITH: Go ahead, Mike. <br />VAN PERNIS: <br />VITOUSEK: I just want to _say that, Commissioner Van Pernis, I personally don't have an issue <br />with the method in which --the information was distributed to us. I think, you know, getting it run by <br />corporation: counsel and sendingan emailvith your opinions in advance of the meeting, I don't, I <br />personally dori't_a problem with that aspect of it. My concern is the content of the material. <br />And, you know; haveLwould be comfortable moving forward, if that were stricken from the record, the <br />material relating to yur,,private investigation call with Mr. Rapoza and, you know, the information <br />about the previous deposition on a previous judgment; I don't think that material is appropriate to <br />discuss with Commissioners. -4 don't mind you sharing your opinion via email. To me, it's about the <br />content, and I don't think that content is appropriate. <br />VAN PERNIS: I think I - - - to investigate, but I would agree to have stricken two, that those <br />portions be stricken. I - - - asked Mr. Rapoza whether he would be here so I could talk to him or <br />question personally; he said he was putting it on record, and he said he was not going to be here. So <br />how else was I to get it? <br />7 <br />DRAFT <br />