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Kealakekua in an old, in a shopping center. And, so, you know, if you, if you are looking, Chair, <br /> if you are looking, Commissioner Van Pernis, for somebody to give you some input on whether <br /> this was a good thing for the community, on whether this was a good thing for the students, on <br /> whether this was a good thing for the university, then you can, you can hear it from me, but I <br /> would suggest that maybe you might want to ask somebody from university system that <br /> question. Thank you. <br /> VAN PERNIS: That begs a question; that does not answer the question. The question is not <br /> whether they spent all of this money on the college, which I understand; the question is when the <br /> original ordinance was passed, did you have the money to build the community that you are <br /> seeking permission for now, or did you have to go find an investor? <br /> CARR SMITH: Mr. Van Pernis, I find that somewhat irrelevant. That's not what's on the table <br /> in front of us at this moment, so I'd like to move on— <br /> VAN PERNIS: Well, let me explain the relevance— <br /> CARR SMITH: Mr. Van Pernis, Mr. Van Perris— <br /> VAN PERNIS: They are speculating- - - <br /> CARR SMITH: Noriko, will you please mute his microphone? <br /> VAN PERNIS: - - - the future. <br /> CARR SMITH: Noriko, will you please—thank you. I want other commissioners' input, please. <br /> Anyone else have some questions? Mike, go ahead. <br /> VITOUSEK: I was just wondering if you could tell us a little bit about Hunt Companies—where <br /> their background is, where the money comes from, all of that. <br /> COLON: Yes— <br /> CARR SMITH: Who can - - -? Steve, go ahead. <br /> COLON: I'll take on that, Commissioner Vitousek. Thank you for the question. Hunt <br /> Companies is a family-owned company, headquartered in El Paso, Texas. We've been active in <br /> Hawaii since the early 90's. We came to Hawaii as a military housing contractor, and we built <br /> about 5,500 homes for all branches of military on Oahu. We now own and operate 7,000 homes <br /> for the Navy and the Marine Corps in Honolulu and on Kaua'i. We also have some other <br /> divisions. The division I run, the development group, is very active with projects on every <br /> island. We are redeveloping the former Barbers Point Naval Air Station, which is a large master <br /> plan community, 550 acres, on the west side of Oahu, and like Pdlamanui it has a whole range, <br /> whole range of uses. We have an affordable housing affiliate that provides financing for <br /> affordable housing projects all over the state. They are very, they are most active syndicator in <br /> Hawaii. We've done multiple projects on the Big Island, in Hilo, and I'm not sure about Kona, <br /> 25 <br /> DRAFT <br />