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which is what we are proposing now. And then Councilman Pete Hoffmann at the very last <br /> minute back in '07 upped it to a 20-acre park and— <br /> COLbN: And Parks department didn't even want that. <br /> HARRIS: And the Parks department was not in favor of that; however, we are willing to go with <br /> what we proposed and that is to provide the second adjacent 10 acres, two parks, and they have <br /> by memo agreed that's okay with them. <br /> VITOUSEK: I mean, but to me, looking at the memo, even the memo itself can create a little bit <br /> of confusion in where they are saying, "In concept, we have no objections"—oh, no, excuse <br /> me—Item b, 10 additional acres for usage for park expansion and development, "These <br /> additional lands shall be contiguous [with the prior dedicated park lands] and shall be configured <br /> and defined in a manner acceptable to the Director of Parks and Recreation." <br /> HARRIS: Yeah- - - <br /> VITOUSEK: That gets into the situation that we were in where they didn't want to accept it <br /> because they weren't what they wanted, whereas, you know, if we are making the commitment <br /> to building it out whatever that may be-it doesn't have to be what, this long, very detailed <br /> description that's included in the existing condition—but if there is a plan for what is going to go <br /> in there, it's going to adequately serve the community that can be implemented in phases with <br /> the growth of the project. To me, that's, that's a better option that serves the public. <br /> YATES: Nancy? <br /> HARRIS: Well, we, we would like to keep the condition as it's written. We have—if you look <br /> at it, we need to meet with the Parks department and flesh this out—but we have met with them <br /> several times over the years, and the concept is pretty simple; the land is directly adjacent to the <br /> first 10 acres. Respectfully, we'd like to stick with the wording as is - - - <br /> YATES: <br /> - -YATES: Nancy? <br /> CARR SMITH: Faye, go ahead. <br /> YATES: I'm, my concern is—I know it's kind of, maybe redundant, but you know, I understand <br /> what you all are saying about, you know, things being, you know, costly and put off—for me, it <br /> would be more important that there is, you know, students are able to go to school, there is <br /> housing for students, there is affordable housing in the area, and a park is nice, but you know, a <br /> park is not all that important right now. And the, and the county—I'm not saying it in a bad <br /> way—they have so many parks, so many places to take care of, that they, it has become <br /> somewhat of a concern that, you know, they are not all that thrilled about parks because they do <br /> not take care of the parks the way that they should take care of the parks. And I speak from <br /> firsthand experience because—I'm, I'm sorry but I'm always calling the county—because <br /> certain things are not taken care of at various parks on this island. And so for me it will be more <br /> important to, for me to understand what has stopped or limited, you know, the university moving <br /> 27 <br /> DRAFT <br />