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COLON: Certainly, we'll consider that. And not to belabor the already lengthy discussion <br /> already, we actually—one of the reasons that we've been doing this, you know, three years with <br /> the county is because there, and the Planning Department, is because there was some initial <br /> discussion of us going to the LUC first, and we actually went to the LUC first. And instead, <br /> basically the guidance we got was, no, you know, get the conditions amended at the county level, <br /> then we are going to go to the LUC. So we already know we are going to be going to the LUC. <br /> We certainly will be taking everything you've mentioned, and more, into consideration. We <br /> recognize this is quite a process, lengthy process - - - <br /> CARR SMITH: Robyn, DPW, I wanted to give you an opportunity, if you wanted to weigh in <br /> on this road talk at all. <br /> MATSUMOTO: Thanks, Nancy. You know, I only have been doing this for a couple of years, <br /> involved in this particular project, so I wasn't aware that there was a discussion about changing <br /> the Road I with another section of Ane Keohokdlole. I mean, it does sound like it's a possibility, <br /> you know, we just don't have another mauka-makai road, though, you know, other than the— <br /> Ka'iminani is the next closest one, so. It's definitely a possibility. <br /> CARR SMITH: Thank you, Robyn. Mr. Van Pernis. <br /> VAN PERNIS: Concerning that road, the mauka-makal connector road, and what Mr. Vitousek <br /> said, we are making decisions that are not going to be in effect for 10 or 20 years; we are not <br /> making it for now. So - - -whether you feel a mauka-makai connector is necessary now—I feel <br /> it's necessary now—but it's certainly going to be needed in 10 or 20 years. Since the applicant <br /> won't commit to when they are going to start, I have to assume 10, 20 or even 30 years, or more. <br /> So I don't think that road should be messed with. I think that Mr. Yee has negotiated long and <br /> hard in that regard, and I think that we should think about—this related to the parks, too—what <br /> is going to be in place 10, 20, 30 years from now, not now. And if you don't think it's needed <br /> now, although I do, it's certainly going to be needed then. Same thing with the stop lights. <br /> That's why I'm asking the traffic study be done 10 years from now, and that that be- - -the <br /> developer. The traffic generated by P51amanui is going to come down Mdmalahoa, too. <br /> CARR SMITH: Can somebody inform me what the guidelines are for traffic studies? Do they, <br /> are they obsolete after a certain period of time or does something else trigger the need for an <br /> updated one? Maija? <br /> JACKSON: Yeah, sure, I can try to respond to that. So we do have a couple of conditions in the <br /> ordinance that are asking for an updated traffic study. The Department of Transportation has <br /> asked for an updated traffic study prior to construction of University Drive. Then the next point <br /> in time where one would be required is if they do not complete full buildout within 20 years, it <br /> would have to do an updated traffic study when they come in for a time extension to the <br /> development period. <br /> 33 <br /> DRAFT <br />