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[Unintelligible cross talk between Mr. Plunkett and Ms. Bouslog.]
<br /> PLUNKETT: I'm sorry.
<br /> BOUSLOG: If I could also comment on the open space question generally. There are nine holes
<br /> or nine fairways we should say, of golf that are being repurposed. Those are approximately 75
<br /> acres, of which 60 some acres are irrigated. Does this plan would replace that with 126 acres of
<br /> open space in this area. And again, that open space is really truly open to the public, as opposed
<br /> to open only paying golfers so whereas those golf areas are visual open space to the rest of us
<br /> who don't golf, they're wholly inaccessible and this, this plan opens up almost twice as much
<br /> open space that the public can actually get close to, and in many areas walk on paths and use.
<br /> PLUNKETT: If I could, could I interject, Commissioner?A couple points and maybe Scott had-
<br /> -I'll rely on him to help me if I get any of my facts wrong. But first of all, the public access is a is
<br /> a big deal to us. We think it's one thing that sets us apart as a resort here in Waikoloa. And I'll
<br /> give you one example. For example, the, the public access parking sits on a much larger lot that,
<br /> than what is actually paved. And as the demand continues to expand for any parking for beach
<br /> access we wouldn't we have the ability to pave more that and create more parking for beach
<br /> access, we would,we have the ability to pave more and create more parking to allow the public
<br /> and residents to, to access the beach. So, you know, that's something that you know, we have the
<br /> ability to expand that as we go forward. Scott, maybe you can tell them what the, the number of
<br /> spaces are and how much land we have but,but it's just a percentage of it.
<br /> HEAD: Yeah. Well, thanks John. You're absolutely correct. I've had the luxury, the great benefit
<br /> of growing up in Hawai`i, having spent time on every resort, virtually, throughout every island
<br /> and I have yet to find a resort destination that provides better access to the shoreline, not only in
<br /> terms of the number of access points,but the number of parking. And to that point, we have 200
<br /> parking stalls in four different locations throughout the resort that provide multiple egress points
<br /> to get to the shoreline. It's something that we're very proud of And as John referenced, we do
<br /> have more land set aside if, if we needed to do a better job accommodating the public. But from
<br /> what I've seen, we continue to do a great job. I think we set aside those lands up on the front and
<br /> when the, when the master plan was developed with the idea that it would accommodate all of
<br /> the units within the overall masterplan community. So—
<br /> PLUNKETT: And then I wanted to point out a couple other things that may not even be
<br /> reflected in the numbers but,but it should be reflected in the reality of what we have here. In
<br /> some ways we've been losing density,particularly in the hotel's the Ocean Tower of the Hilton
<br /> converted from hotels to timeshare and in the process, we lost, Scott, what, approximately 150
<br /> units that, that we, well in our numbers for the visitor units, we have the full number, not the
<br /> reduce number in reality. The second thing is when Marriott converted the north tower of the
<br /> Marriott Waikoloa, we also lost some units. I don't remember the exact counts, but our hotel
<br /> densities have actually been dropping Additionally, we have another site that's zoned for some
<br /> 300 units on the, on the beach course driving range that we wouldn't be able to get that in 100
<br /> years, so we will be giving up density on that and it's-
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