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things. I mean, or are we just saying, you know, go look at it and that's something that the <br /> Commission will have to be comfortable whether they're okay and delegating to the Planning <br /> Department the analysis of the shoreline public access and carrying capacity resource use, those <br /> kinds of things. <br /> KERN: I think that can be similarly tied to a condition and maybe Sid can have some language <br /> around that so it's not necessary, you know, it's something that's, that's there. It's fixed in a way, <br /> right?Kind of like a TIAR, you have to do this at a certain point and based on that, these <br /> mitigation measures, right? I believe that-- <br /> VITOUSEK: What I'm saying is that we wouldn't be reviewing those mitigation measures as a <br /> commission if, if we're giving that up for later. It's not, we don't have that information now so, <br /> we're not able to consider it as part of this SMA application because we just don't have it. So, the <br /> question is, do we need that?That's for my fellow Commissioners. Do we need that information <br /> now, or do we, are we comfortable deferring that to the Planning Department? <br /> FUKE: Mr. Chairman, if I can kind of just address the coastal issue. I agree with the Director in <br /> the sense that the connectivity issue kind of relates more to a zone change matter. Relative to the, <br /> the workforce housing that'll probably also has to be tied in with the zone change. On the matter <br /> of the coastal access, I think it's, I agree with the Director that it's definitely germane relative to <br /> the SMA considerations. I think that you know, coastal access has been like traditional criteria or <br /> requirement for all SMA permits. What is new in terms of what you're suggesting is the so- <br /> called, and you know as, as probably amplified by Commissioner Paishon-Duarte is the so-called <br /> carrying capacity, and I don't know whether there's any template or model, you know, been done <br /> to, to establish what is the desired carrying capacity or the acceptable level of carrying capacity. <br /> However, I discussed it informally with the, Mr. Plunkett and I do have proposed language that <br /> specifically at least attempts to address this notion of carrying capacity and incorporate same, <br /> fine tune the updated public access plan. If you're willing, I'm kind of, I'd be more than happy to <br /> share that with you and the Commissioners. <br /> VITOUSEK: Yes,please do. <br /> FUKE: Chair, so if you look at Condition number five, which specifically relates to the <br /> responsibility for the applicant to update the public access plan. So, it would read the applicant <br /> shall update the approved public access plan because there already is an existing public access <br /> plan. The applicant shall update the approved public access plan, taking into consideration the <br /> carrying capacity of the areas coastal use, and incorporate public access facilities,proposing that <br /> Kumu Hou, Kumu Hou Waikoloa master plan is submitted for review and approval of the <br /> Planning Director and so-on and so-forth. But basically, what it does is just introduces the <br /> element of now we'll have to take into consideration carrying capacity. We don't know what it is, <br /> but maybe we can generate data in terms of the number of people that are using the coastal area <br /> and put it into the public access plans. And I know that, like, relative to the Lava Lava area when <br /> an updated public access plan was prepared there were additional signage done to specifically <br /> address some of the coastal resources like don't take sand, watch out for like you know when you <br /> have like the turtle is coming around, you know those kinds of things. And those are kind of like <br /> a new and, new requirement relative to the access component of the Lava Lava area, and I'm <br /> 46 <br /> EXHIBIT D <br />