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<br /> `aina, for your property, but what if those, if in the case that there are new property owners and
<br /> they don't have the same level of awareness and value set and consciousness? What are your
<br /> thoughts on that? Like how,how do we just, my, my thoughts are like how do we make sure that
<br /> land is, and our ecosystems are, taken care of generationally and not just for today? Can you just
<br /> share a little bit about your thoughts?
<br /> KAHANANUI: Well, you know, basically, you know, I grew up and lived on that property,
<br /> actually on the lower house that my brother lived in, and, you know, I want to just keep it within
<br /> the family basically. And, you know, even though my niece lives in Vegas, her brother lives in
<br /> the house, and they want to reside there and, you know, continue on and not—you know, keep it
<br /> within the family kind of thing. So basically,just to carry on, you know, what my tutu Kinoulu
<br /> started and, you know,by hanai,my dad, and my auntie who resides, who resides next door to
<br /> our property.
<br /> PAISHON-DUARTE: Mahalo.
<br /> KAHANANUI: Mahalo id`oe.
<br /> PAISHON-DUARTE: Mahalo.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Okay. Commissioner DeFranco.
<br /> DEFRANCO: Before we make the motion, Mike, I think, you know, and I agree with Mahina,
<br /> Commissioner Paishon-Duarte, too, you know, we are all into, and so are you, into preserving all
<br /> these things, and we don't know beyond ourselves, so I think that's an important question. But it
<br /> also felt, you know, because I'm a farmer, too, if I need to harvest my mangoes or my avocados
<br /> or I need to cut a bush down, I don't need to hire a biologist to come out, you know. I, I—and
<br /> looking at the way the land is, it is fully developed. So if we were to make a recommendation
<br /> right now, would the recommendation include all this language or, or because of this discussion,
<br /> is it being revised? I'm unsure of what we are making the recommendation.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Well, we can do it a couple different ways; we can make a motion to send a
<br /> favorable recommendation or,an unfavorable recommendation; if we decide to make a favorable
<br /> recommendation, we can do a secondary motion to amend the conditions, and while doing that,
<br /> amending the conditions, we can alter or remove the conditions regarding the boilerplate
<br /> Division of Forestry and Wildlife language that we don't, that may or may not apply to this
<br /> particular property.
<br /> DEFRANCO: Right, and at the same time, making sure that something is left in there that does
<br /> protect the generational idea of it so it's not like it's a carte blanche or something. That's not
<br /> what the intention is, I think, in this discussion.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Right, I think we—I don't know what the language would be to make sure that the
<br /> environment will be protected. What I'm saying.in this case is I think that the native
<br /> environment has been pretty heavily degraded by the environmental use of the property, by the
<br /> residential and agricultural use of the property; there's no `ohi`a left, there's no native forest
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