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VITOUSEK: I definitely appreciate the language being direct in there. And Deputy Corp.
<br /> Counsel Campbell, you have your hand up?
<br /> CAMPBELL: Hi. I just want to give you a little bit of background that might be helpful. So
<br /> long as that forest management plan is recorded against the property, it's recorded against the
<br /> entire thing, so whatever the forest management plan says is going to—the Bureau will record it
<br /> against the entire lot, so it doesn't even, once it's recorded, it applies to everything, the entire
<br /> property. So, and then it's just whatever the terms of the forest management plan itself say,
<br /> which I imagine are, you know,preserved 80 percent of the forest within each lot, but the forest
<br /> management plan itself, once recorded, applies to the entirety of the property. Is that, does that
<br /> make sense? Am I explaining that well enough?
<br /> VITOUSEK: Mm-hmm, yes—
<br /> CAMPBELL: Just a by way of background in case that's helpful for you.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Definitely. And then, you know, the background report doesn't have a detail for a
<br /> fauna analysis,but it does indicate in pictures and all that there is pretty extensive invasive
<br /> species population, invasive plants, silver oak, ginger, Christmas berry, all of that within the
<br /> forest portion of it, and, you know, there is not a tremendous amount of value in preserving
<br /> invasive species. Is there any idea of what you are hoping to accomplish with the forest
<br /> management plan?
<br /> FUKE: I think, my understanding is that the idea, you know, you have predominantly `ohi`a,
<br /> you know, grove of`ohi`a over there, and you are trying to kind of retain or propagate the `ohi`a
<br /> forest in that area . And I would imagine that the, your forest management program, if they are
<br /> in fact invasive species where there is like waiawi or whatever have you, that the management
<br /> plan would specifically address in terms of how to get rid of them. I think the focus is really like
<br /> just trying to create that forest and, you know, retain that forest and to enhance it.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Yeah, as I, you know, looking at—
<br /> KANUHA: So, Mike
<br /> VITOUSEK: Go ahead.
<br /> KANUHA: Mike, as a Kaloko resident and, you know, my property being, you know, dedicated
<br /> Native Hawaiian Forest Reserve, you are able to—obviously, you are stuck with how much land
<br /> you can clear for building purposes. But in removal of invasive species, you can go and remove
<br /> and replant whatever you want for native Hawaiian—we started doing that on our property when
<br /> I bought this 10 years ago, you know, we started doing that. So it's, you know, it's the
<br /> constraints, and it's kind of, the forest management plan, they like seeing, you know, obviously
<br /> the waiawi, Christmas berry, that, you know the reintroduction of`ohi`a forest because this is a
<br /> watershed for our community, but it's one of the last native Hawaiian `ohi`a forests here on the
<br /> west side. So just moving forward to answer that question, I know with the forest management
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