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remove native forest and put something else in its place was not the intent of the condition. Did I— VITOUSEK: Commissioner DeFranco. JACKSON: —answer your question? [Commissioner Knowles nods in affirmative.] DEFRANCO: Right, so if the 80 percent is the forest, so the 20 percent that he has is where he would plant his avocado tree or his coffee or something that isn't a native plant. Is that right? It would be included in that 20-percent area. So if they want to plant citrus trees or something around their homes, then that's okay, but the 80 percent, if it's going to remain in the forest, has to remain with the native Hawaiian plants. Is that correct? JACKSON: That was the intent of the condition, and that's what we have seen in the forestry management plans that we've reviewed. KANUHA: And like I said earlier, yes, that is part of the stewardship plan for any homeowners up here is to revitalize the native Hawaiian forests. So, yes, it is ag land, and agricultural stuff could be done on that 20 percent that's cleared. What native, you know, Department of Forestry and Department of Land and Natural Resources, what they want and are sitting on it is to rebuild our native Hawaiian forest. Just a little clarification because I have all this in writing. DEFRANCO: Thank you, Commissioner Kanuha. That's what I wanted to clarify, too, because, Clinton, I thought I heard you say that, you know, you would, might be planning coffee or other things there, but I just wanted to make sure that in this overall plan, we understand that things like that are in the 20 percent; the 80 percent is for forest and the reforestation of native, the `ohi`a and whatever, maybe some anthuriums or something like that,but coffee I don't think would grow, would be part of that. Is that right? KANUHA: Yeah, yeah, Commissioner DeFranco, on our, you know, moving forward, like I said, as an owner and having the management plan here before, you know, and put in places as an owner, that's what it is for here. So, you know,putting restrictions of ag, I guess I would say agricultural uses to a native Hawaiian forest, there is a catch-22, so, you know, I am pushing forward, you know, here you got to promote this is Ag is kind of, you know, their native Hawaiian forestry is technically there, that's why this is zoned Ag, you know. I know we have the zoning, but what happened before was people were clearing out putting in two cows and say that we are doing agricultural purposes and destroying the native Hawaiian forest, so I know that stopped some years ago. FUKE: So if I can just kind of add to that, you know, if you recall like some of the earlier rezonings in that area, it was not necessarily only for the, how it's kind of morphed into like native Hawaiian forest, but then, you know, there were some other objectives, such as for watershed protection, as well as maybe protection on the `alala, you know, the Hawaiian crow or, you know,just the nesting ability. So the removal of the trees, the denuding of that area would compromise those objectives. So I think that has multiple, you know, reasons why, you know, this condition is made. We will have to provide, you know, as Maija had indicated, the 18 EXHIBIT C (DRAFT)