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i LIN: Go ahead. AGUINALDO: For the applicant and the applicant's representative, I guess, you had a testifier indicating of material bringing brought to the property. So, he's concerned because in the back there going down on Kahaopea when it rains hard it does flood. So, he has an access easement, Russell has an access easement to his property. When you bring in material depending on the size of the area. You guys are bringing material or grubbing have you guys acquired a grading or grubbing permit to just cover your guys tushy because you guys are close to a flood zone right. You see where I'm coming from. YEH: Yep. AGUINALDO: So, you know it's just for him because he probably drives there everyday, going and seeing material being brought in. From the time extension to wherever you guys are at now, are you guys taking proper mitigation as far as runoffs or what not. Because right across the street, I remember when there was a big flood long time ago, shucks even that house got flooded and the house sits pretty high. You know just addressing that, it's a great concept what you are trying to do. My question is again, have you guys take, you know I mean a grubbing or grading permit to satisfy FEMA right. YEH: Yes. So, basically the way the process works is FEMA issued its conditional letter of map revision based on plans for dealing with this drainage issue and grading plans have been provided and prepared and are being submitted to Public Works in compliance or consistent with those FEMA approved plans. We've also gotten the right-of-entry from the neighbors who are makai of the property because we need to go in there and do some work too as part of that. The idea is help focus, concentrate, and minimize any issues of drainage. It's just a matter of water. Where does this water come from? It comes from up above. I believe it's Waiakea Stream kind of water that the County has for some time also been kind of dealing with. So, it's kind of a host of factors that contribute to this. But, yes, grading permit,part of the construction drawings and plans in order to get final approval we are going to need to complete those before we can even get final approval or bonded. AGUINALDO: Okay, so, you guys do have at least a grubbing permit? YEH: It's coming. AGUINALDO: Okay, YEH: It's coming. Yes. But the client or the applicant was not responsible for bringing fill in and I just need to make that clear. That is not been the case. AGUINALDO: Okay. YEH: It was a predecessor owner. AGUINALDO: Oh,previously. 6 EXHIBIT C