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paths, maybe they want something else. But wouldn't it be more I guess; my term would be fair to have them come in again as a new application because the ordinance is now expired. KERN: It's kind of the same thing whether they are coming back through and it's, I guess, it's just a difference of semantics in the way, right? They have to come back in, and they have to submit in a fresh application, they have to submit what they're requesting, are there any other deviations from that existing zoning, is there any supporting elements that will help with that. Sometimes it comes in and its light meaning that it doesn't have the information we need so then staff would request that. So, the challenge we that we run into is that it's not just a simple open and shut case. Where, let's say you have rezoning that went from Ag 1 to RS-10. So, Agricultural-1 acre to Residential-10,000 square feet. When the zoning ordinance expires, or that condition expires. The zoning doesn't just automatically revert back. The zoning is actually in the state of limbo. Where it's zoned Ag-10, excuse me, zoned RS-10 but they can't actually do anything with it. They can't subdivide it; they can't do anything because the conditions haven't been met so the ordinance is what we call stale. They also can't go in and use it for Ag-1 because that's no longer the zoning that it has. So, you actually get into a state where the property is not usable. And so, at that point in time, they have to come in and say, I want to revert it back to its original zoning or I want to get an extension of time, I want to bring it back up to its current zoning or I want to do something completely different. If it's completely different they have to submit a completely fresh new application. If it's just for the same the thing and they want to do say, extend the time, then that would be time extension request. In this case, the ordinance based on the intention of where this is going, I want to say it's 10 years, that 10 years have expired, that zoning ordinance basically is expired but the property still in limbo. LIN: Mr. Inaba? INABA Thank you. Director, in terms of this administrative extension. When we look at the language it says that we insert into the bills currently. It says, "An initial extension of time for the performance of conditions within the ordinance maybe granted by the Planning Director upon the following circumstances". And it goes into what Director Kern already covered. If someone is granted 5 years, and they come to you six(6)years later. So, technically its expired are they able to get an administrative extension since technically the rezoning ordinance has expired? But would you retroactively, technically you could give 5 years, but would you give 5 years from the day the ordinance expired, or would you not give an extension at all since the rezoning ordinance is not expired? KERN: I don't believe I have had to deal with that personally. Maija, could you maybe explain previous practice. JACKSON: Yes. So, if the ordinance say you have 5 years to construct and there's an administrative time extension condition if the person comes in at year 6, we would grant the administrative time extension because they're within that 10-year period. Provided that conditions haven't changed right, like infrastructure or the plans for the area and then once they hit year eleven(11) let's say and they come in and say, "Well, we have a project now, we want 9 EXHIBIT B(DRAFT)