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February 18, 2003
Honorable James Y.Arakaki
and Members of the County Council
Hawaii County Council _
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, HI 96720
Dear Chair Arakaki and Members of the County Council:
SUBJECT: )Bill No. 17 - T10~I1K Nos. 2-2-0:14 anel 69 -
I am writing more on the subject of whether this property is properly considered "High
Density" in the General Plan. After reviewing all of the records on the subject, I have to
say there are two possible ways of looking at it, and that I should give a complete history
so that council members can understand why. In considering this chronology, the key
question is whether this site was changed to High Density when the council passed the
comprehensive review to the General Plan on November 1, 1989.
In 1982, the Council passed an amendment to the General Plan LUPAG map to
designate an area "not exceeding forty acres...at the northeastern corner of Puainako
Street and Kanoelehua Ave." as "High Density." This was done specifically to allow the
development, which was then known as "Redevco", and which since has become the
Prince Kunio Plaza. See Attachment "1". It does not include the subject property, which
is at the southeastern corner of Puainako and Kanoelehua.
During the General Plan comprehensive review, in 1986, the Planning Director proposed
an amendment to the LU~PAG maps, No. 11, which ~~vould change land surrounding the
Prince Kunio Plaza from "Industrial" to "High Density". The map, Attachment 2, did not
include the subject property, which is "Low Density", not "Industrial," and it is clear that
the Director did not originally intend to include the subject property in No. 11.
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Hawaii County Council
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On June 23, 1987, the owner of the subject property wrote asking that it be included as a
new General Plan amendment. Atachment " 3". Under the procedures at the time, had
this been considered as a new amendment, it would have required a further round of
hearings by the Planning Commission. The Planning Director at the time, Al Lono
Lyman, initially responded that the LUPAG map could be interpreted to include the
property as already within the High Density area by the 1982 amendment. Deputy
Corporation Counsel Pat O'Toole opined, however, that one could not use map
interpretation this way, because the LUPAG map amendment for Prince Kuhio Plaza had
covered a specific area. See Planning Commission minutes of August 19, 1987,
Attachment 4. I agree with this opinion, because otherwise one would be ignoring the
Council's specific designation of the area covered by the amendment. This situation with
respect to the 1982 amendment is unlike most General Plan LUPAG map designations,
because most were not made by specific location, and were not intended to be precise
locations on the map.
Director Lyman then stated that he would consider the area as being included within
No. 11. Planning Commission minutes of August 19, 1987.
Thereafter, the Planning Commission's transmittal of amendments to the Mayor, which
then went to the Council, explicitly stated that the changes included changing the subject
property to High Density. Attachment "5".
The Department did write to the owner, on October 26, 1988, that if No. 11 passed, the
Department would "interpret" the subject property to be within No. 11. Attachment "6".
If nothing had else had happened, and No. 11 had passed unchanged, I would have to
conclude that the subject property was included within No. 11.
After the Director's proposed amendments went to the Council, the Council had the
opportunity to suggest amendments. The owner wrote to the Council on November 1988
asking that the Council propose an amendment that his property becomes High Density.
Attachment "7". The Council at first put together a package of amendments that did not
include this property. On January 25, 1989, however, Planning Committee Chair Takashi
Domingo wrote to Council Chair Russell Kokubun, asking that this property be added to
the Council's package, and stating that it had "inadvertently" been omitted. Attachment
"8". At the Council meeting on Feb. 15, 1989, a motion was passed to add an
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Hawaii County Council
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amendment for this property, refen•ed to as the "Suisan" property, to be changed to High
Density. Attachment "9". At this point, the proposed General Plan ordinance was Bill
402, Drafr 4, and the subject property had been added as a specific amendment to Drafr 3.
The Council's actions create a basic question, because if the Council thought that this
property was already included in No. 11, there was no need for the Council to initiate this
as a separate amendment.
The Council's package went to the new Planning Director, Duane Kanuha; the subject
property was item No. 8., p. 118. Attachment 0".
Under the ordinance governing revisions of the General Plan in effect at the time, the
Planning Director could refuse to initiate amendments proposed by the Council. (The
ordinance has since been amended; the Planning Director no longer has that power).
Kanuha refused to initiate the amendment and sent a message on May 8, 1989 giving a
"Table of Disposition" on the amendments proposed by the Council; this clearly states
that No. 8 was "not initiated". Attachment "11". It should also be noted that there were
several amendments proposed by the Council that Kanuha believed were already
contained in other amendments proposed by the Director, and he specifically refers to
these in his Table of Disposition. Clearly, Kanuha did not believe that the proposed
change to the subject property was already included in another pending amendment.
Kanuha also prepared a document explaining the reasons why various amendments
proposed by the Council had or had not been initiated. Attachment "12". Although as far
as 1 can determine, this document remained within the Planning Department, it clearly
shows that Kanuha rejected the Council's proposal to redesignate the subject property.
The Director sent the council-proposed amendments that he did initiate on to the
Planning Commission for further hearing; the subject property was not included.
After the Planning Commission hearings, the new set of amendments went to the
Council. Kanuha did explain, in response to a question that not all of the Council's
amendments had been initiated, and the Council clearly understood that it was not getting
to vote on those proposals that had not been initiated by the Director. See Attachment
"13": minutes of October 4, 1989. The Council then enacted the revised General Plan,
which passed second reading on November 1, 1989. The version finally enacted was Bill
402, Draft 5, and it was clear from the minutes that Draft 5 only included those
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Hawaii County Council
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amendments suggested by the Council that the Planning Director had "initiated". See
Attachment "14". Draft 5 was accompanied by a LUPAG map that kept the subject
property as "Low Density".
The two ways of looking at this are: (1) that the subject property was included already in
amendment no. 11, and that everything that happened afterwards was superfluous; or (2)
that because the Planning Director refused to initiate the change later requested by the
Council, and the Council then enacted the General Plan without it, the subject property
was not changed to "High Density".
In explaining to staff what had happened in the General Plan revisions, the Planning
Director, in 1990, included the document explaining that the change to the subject
property had not been initiated. Attachment "15". (This letter actually refers to
Attachment "12".)
In 2000, the owner's representative wrote to the Planning Director asking for
confirmation that the subject property was "High Density". Attachment "16". The
Department answered affirmatively, refemng only to the events before the Council began
considering the General Plan revisions. Attachment "17". I have also included a letter
written in 2000 by Takashi Domingo, who had been chair of the Planning Committee of
the Council, stating that he had been under the impression that the subject property was
included as "High Density" when the General Plan was revised in 1989. Attachment
"18"
For the sake of completeness, I should mention that the current General Plan revisions
show the subject property being changed to "High Density" in the new LUPAG, as part
of B-14 in South Hilo. This change began before the current county administration but I
kept it in to conform the new map to the previous letter by the Director that it was already
included.
Honorable James Y.Arakaki
and Members of the County Council
Hawaii County Council
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I don't know if this chronology has helped the Council make a decision but I thought the
fairest thing would be to present the picture as completely as possible.
Sincer~el~y,
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CHRISTOPHER J. N
Planning Director
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Attaotunents
BILL PJO. 878
COUNTY OF HAWAII - STATE OF HAWAII
ORDINANCE N0. ~2
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COUNTY OF HAWAII GENERAL PLAN ORDINANCE
N0. 439, BY DELETING FROM THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE PATTERN
ALLOCATION MAP, THE "INllUS"TRIAL" DESIGNATION AND INSEKTING A "HIGH
DENSITY URBAN DEVELOPMENT" DESIGNATION A'I' THE NOKTHEASTEKN CUKNEt;
OF PUAINAKO STKEEI' AND KANOELEHUA AVENUE, SOU'T'H HILO, HAWAII.
BE I'1 ORDAINED BY THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF THE COUNTY OF HAWAII,
STATE OF HAWAII:
SECTION 1. The amended County of Hawaii General Plan,
Ordinance No. 439, is hereby amended by deleting from the General
Plan Land Use Pattern Allocation Map a portion of "Industrial"
designation, not exceedinb forty (40) acres, and inserting a "High
Density Urban Development" designation at the northeastern corner
of Puainako Street and Kanoelehua Avenue, South Hilo, Hawaii.
SECTION 2. Severability. If any provision of this ordinance C
or the application thereof to any person or circumstances is held
invalid, such invalidity shall not affect other provisions or
applications of the ordinance, and to this end the provisions of
this ordinance are declared to be .severable.
SECTION 3. This ordinance shall take effect upon its approval.
INTKO~DU~C?ELD BY:
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llate of Introduction: September 1, 1982
Date of Adoption: September 15, 1982
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Mr. Toni Krieger, Chairman
County F'lannan~; Commission
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Dear "4r. Chairman and
members of the F'Lanning Commission:
i2 F?: GP TJpdat:e - Proposed High Densii;y
TMK: 2-2-40: 14 and 69
Milo, Il+rwai.i
T am preseutay the owner of twu parcels of lend situated
on thr, :;oi.it:heastorn r,orrur of t;he I>uainako Street/ Kanoelehua
iLighway interser.t.:ian. These parcels can:-ist of approximately
fi.fi+ ar,ros and arr. i.dentifir.d F>y TMK: 2 -'7.-4U: 7.9 rind E!).
'Chas area forms one of the Your corners of tt~e
Ranoelehua 1lighway/Puainalco Street intersection. Direei;).y
to the north of the s~rbje,ct property is the Prince Kuh~io ~i
Shopping Plaza. Situa1:ed ar,ross or west of the suhjeci:
property is the K'CA Shoppinl• Complex.
As Che ai:tar,h~>d rr,port indicates, I:ho sub,jer,t arr,a is
locatonaaly su:itat~le for cammercia] uses. W}rile there may
br, some on--sil:e deveL~pmcut: constraints, i:he_re r,onsi:rai.nts
are nut insurnunantabae. They can be worked out.
.As such I re:;pr,ctYully raguest 1:he Commis.^, ion Co
consider this area for fCiyh Density Orban Deve.lopmF:nt as part
of i:Le L'ounty':a General Plan update grogram.
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County of Hawaii
CiL-'ARING TaiANSC.RIP^1
August 19, 1987
A regularly advertised public hearing on the draft General Plan was
Called t0 OYder at 7 p~m lfl I~?7 ~!iUnCiJ.-'':7 Cim, `.~fila 7lr µU. 1.l Y1=i
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PRESL;iiT: Thomas A. Krieger ABSBNT: Pearl Batalona
ralarl..l. I_ (;'Yti }Pii~S_f; riFn
~dary r~iizuno 'Icmmy Ishimaru
Tom Poy Arthur Martin
Clarence Mills
Albert Lono Lyman, Planning Director
Virginia Goldstein, Staff Planner
Brian Nishimura, Staff Planner
Pat O'Toole, Deputy Corporation Counsel
And approximately 25 people from the public were in
attendance
CHAIRMAN: This meeting of the Hawaii County Planning
Commission will come to order. Tonight is a continuation of a
public hearing to discuss the draft General Plan and recommended
changes to the LUPAG map, written testimony, comments and oral
testimony received through its public hearings on June 2, 10, 16
and 23, 1987 and July 8, 1987, and to deliberate on modifications
and revisions from the Planning Director to the draft Plan and LUPAG
and Facilities Niaps,
Is there anybody in the audience who wants to testify on this matter
now before the Commission? Let the record show there is none. In
the absence of any further testimony on this matter and since we
have already gone through five previous meetings in various parts
and sections of the County, I would recommend that we close the
public hearing.
MILLS: I so move, Nir. Chairman.
ivIZUNO: Second.
CHAIRMAN: It has been moved and seconded that we close th a
public hearing on the draft General Plan. Any questions? All these
in favor say aye.
CGMN;ISSIONEhS: Aye.
CIrA:[RMAN: OF.pose, nay. Ne opposition. motion is carried.
The public hearing is closed At this point in time, I think we'll
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probably discuss how we°d want to handle the General Plan, the
recommended changes to the General Plan, LUPAG N!ap and written
testimony and so forth that we've heard in the past five meetings®
IyYIL7~~5; 1°;r~. Chairman?
CHAIRMAN; Commissioner PQills.
°:!f 5; ! cvoiiiii like igst of all to retlect to last
night°s comments that I made to the Planning Department and also the
Planning Director, I would like to have the answers to the
ra lleStlOnS that 7 3~,, k.~:1 , AP.d that i+?aS~ fir",Pt r,F z3.11, .t% I 'a l1 izij
_ai i~l'~i.ta vvy~%rl aC. ~_hdirrlan.
CHAIRMAN: In the interim, the Corporation Counsel is here
to answer your questions.
MILLS: Yes. There is one that we asked that the
Department check with the Public Works on the flood map on the
Kohala area where Mr. Ross indicated that his property is being, may
be affected. And in looking at the map today at my occupational
site, it also affects Kohala High School. And I was wondering if
we can get a report on that from the Public Works.
CHAIRMAN: Staff, did you check on this?
NISHIMURA: Yes, I did. I talked to the Chief of the
Engineering, well, not to the Chief Engineer, but the head of the
engineering division of the Department of Public Works. And I
indicated to him or described the question as Commissioner Mills had
raised last night.
And from the Planning Department's standpoint, you know, our
position is, as we have previously explained to Henry Ross, and I'll
so do now, that we have recognized or we do recognize that there is
a flood potential in the area. However, it also, you know, those
kinds of situations apply all over the island where we have, and we
have designated urban designations over these areas.
In our discussions with the Department of Public Works, the question
is is it necessary to handle those kinds of questions or issues at
the General Plan level or are there other levels in the land use
regulatory process where those questions can be addressed? And our,
you know, we were in agreement that the normal way that we have had
handled it in the past and the way we are handling it now is to
handle those questions during the rezoning process, in which if
there is a potential for flooding the Department of Public Works
will request that a drainage study or some kind of analysis be
provided by the applicant to provide information regarding the flood
hazards for the area and how they°re planning to mitigate any
potential problems. Ana unless those concerns are addressed, the
rezoning application will not be recommended for approval. And
that, you know, that's the point in time where the .levell of detail
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that would be necessary to evaluate the hazard, you know, tYiat°s the
point in time that vae feel that we can adequately handle the problem.
So, from our standpoint, we don't feel it's a strong General Plan
proble,u that we'd have tG overcome before we can designate certain
areas for urban uses.
MILLS: SO, Brian, What vou'rE' Sar ln~ nGTN 1, that w,'~~t~ ~.S
';°7.:^d m -_%i;'.-=_ ht]~s d;cj i?L till `L d"iC ].v :3 ;i 17ie Ghin~~ t~l ctt 1~ gP_n erally Clan.=;
NISHIiaURA: That's correct,
<z~,,; .ic',, ;,oc somct~,ir,g done arbitrarily?
IvISHIMURA: If you were to refer to, you know, other sections
of the island, on the existing General Plan Map, you will notice
that there is overlaid along with the urban designated areas, there
are flood designated areas or potential flooding areas that are
overlaid on it. And so we have designated urban areas that have
some kind of
MILLS: Gkay, I accept your analysis of it. The other
issue that I brought up, and I'd like to ask Corporation Counsel to
answer, and again, and here it is--The letter to the Planning
Commission dated July 29, 1987, the Director is stating that the
request can be accommodated by interpretations of the existing high
density urban designation in and around the Prince Kuhio Plaza
complex, and this determination will be verified with a letter to
the owner of the affected property. And the concern that I have is
it seems to me that only the Council is permitted to do that, and,
this is, I need an opinion. You read a document last night, and I
do not know whether you shared it with her today, to see if that
sufficed.
LYMAN: what Z read was the first standard in the land
use element which is presently worded, reads as follows: "The
designated land uses will be delineated on the General Plan Land Use
Pattern Allocation Map. The boundaries indicated are long-range
guides to general locations and will be subject to a) existing
zoning, b) State Land Use district, and c) zone guide map and
interpretation." And it goes on to some other text.
O'TOOLE: I did review that, And as to the interpretation,
we concluded that if the Council had amended the General Plan and
the General Plan Map through an interim amendment which was
specifically described either by tax map key or some other method
that there would be no room for interpretation under those
guidelines that have been read, if there is some specific ordinance
description.
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D1IliL5: .So, therefore, it would not have as much bearing
as if the Council had approved it upon the recommendation of this
Cornmissicn?
O'2'Ur)?_~H; what wouldn't have as much bearing?
DILLS: A letter of interpretation
r,''I'GGL.f.~': bight. Ede don't believe that there is room £or
such interpretation, other than what the Council had passed in the
SpeC1f 1C OrdlnanC??, In Other CaneS~ y0U tK "t104l3 !i r? ^.°rt^~=ct 1. ='i, =3 n, i=,%,~
L'YMAN: If I can interject. 41hat she's doing is making a
distinction between amendments that are, were specific tax map key
parcels and changes that were done on the map without reference to
tax map key parcels, is that correct?
O'TOOLE: I believe so. I think that what S am saying is
that the, as I understand it, the General Plan i~iap that would be
aropted, for example, now would not be, the boundaries wouldn't be
described by metes and bounds or any specific way, in that way. And
so between, you know, the green and the blue there, you may not know
exactly one parcel if it's to be in the green or the blue, except by
interpretation of the general factors which is allowed. But if
there has been an interim amendment and that amendment ordinance
specifically describes the particular parcel, then only that parcel
has been changed.
LYMAN: In the review, we are adding to the map things
that were done through amendment and the intent was that those map
changes 6e generalized. How should that be treated?
G'TOOLE: You're adding changes that the Council had
already made?
LYNiAN: Well, plus, we're doing other changes, too.
O'TOOLE: Correct. So you're asking me about which changes?
LYMAN: The, we're adding to the map in about half a
dozen cases changes that ware already made by t_he Council but it's
not made on the map. The amendment ordinance made no reference to
the map.
O'TOGLE: Sut the amendment ordinance specifically
describes which area is changed in some way?
LYMAN: That°s correct. Eut in some cases, things were
going through both the review and the amendment process.
O'TOOLE: find what are you asking me?
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LYr1Aiv; well, the intent in our mapping these were to
make them generalized,
U'TGOLE; but you're distinguishing between amendments that
you have Nroposed to the Commission and amendments that have been,
in effect, made by the Council, and you're now placing tp,nga c;, r,
map?
t,'~hu~~r~,; That's correct, with the intent that the mapping
be generalized. See, part of the dilemma .is we're dealing vrit;; r. r,~=
inch equalling two miles on the ma,>, anc! ~,oin~,: ,,,dam v<=ry
litaraliy =~nc nv*- ~~-r, =~i;ic Cc get down to specific parcels that
I~~ aescribeu on the map by metes and bounds.
G'TOOLE: Yes, but if the change can be traced to the
ordinance and you look at the ordinance and it says tmk x, y, z,
then that was the change that the Council had made. Now if you are
proposing to the Planning Commission other changes, you know, of a
more broad scope, then, you know, that's a different kind oL change.
LYMAN; In responding to the Planning Commission, while
we might have seen it differently than you're seeing it, our intent
was that those changes represent more generalized changes.
O'TOOLE: But it is the Council's intent which counts when
they have passed this ordinance. If there have been other proposals
made by yourself during the General Amendment process, you know,
that's different from ones that are being picked up just because the
Council has made a specific change.
LYMAN; Yeah, but we've taken those changes though the
entire process and noted them as having been tied in with specific
amendments. And I think in our response to the Commission, we are
clearly indicating, at least in two cases, that the intent in our
putting them on the map through the review process is that they be
generalized changes, as well as relating to the specific tmk changes
that were made previously.
O'TOOLE; Gdell, I guess I'd say then I would have to look
to see what and how these proposals have been, you know, portrayed
through this process up to this point.
IN ILLS; 1tiJr. Chairman, what I'm hearing is that a
particular area that we're taking about, if it is not going to have
the clout that is necessary, my concern is that why don't we then
color that map because the letter of interpretation, to me, seems
synonymous with coloring the map. This is my interpretation. I
don't know
LYMAN; Maybe this can be a way of approaching this--I
can state what our intent was. Corporation Counsel has the
prerogative to review it. But at this point the Planning Commission
:pan do one of two things, One is to make further recommendations
back to the Plannin5 Department, which would be the second round of
recommendations or alternatively make recommendations to the
Council. And if the Planning Commission's intent is that these be
9eneral.i?ed map changes as opposed to specific, I think it's
ntirel1 in order sor them to do so at this juncture.
CHAIRMAN: Yes, I tend to agree with than, I tt;n!;
wouldn't b., 't v:; ~ {L r,.~ li_ L ~h i.:J the c~lanning
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iv1TZUN0: Mr. Chairman?
~:21~„7,h,z~.ac C~o,r~missioner Mizuno.
MIZUNO: Well, since the Planning Director presently has
determined that this particular parcel adjacent to the Prince Kuhio
Plaza is included as one of those to be redesignated high density,
could we ask the Director to include it as one of his proposed
amendments?
CHA.iRNiAN: Certainly.
MIZUNO: That would clarify the whole problem.
LYMAN: They're really two ways that it can be done. One
requires the whole thing going back to the Planning Department and
going back to public notice and workshops and hearings. The other
is that you, at this point, and I would be supportive of this in
making your recommendation to the Council, note that these are
intended to be or you recommend that they be generalized map
designations as opposed to tmk specific.
MIZUP70: I don't think we need to go back into public
hearings and so forth because this has already been brought up at
our previous meetings at the public hearings. So I think the
Director would have the power to do it right here now.
LYMAN: Well, what I'm noting is that you actually have
the prerogative and authority to make a recommendation to the
Council on this matter directly.
CHAIRMAN: Yes, we do~
LYMAN: A11 I make is a recommendation.
CHAIRMAN: And although we made these recommendations to tha
Planning Director in the past, they were not acted upon. They were
ignored, I think, is that correct? And I think our process now, if
he amends his position I think we have to go back for public
hearing. Is that correct, counsel?
O'dvGL6': _zight. Then the Commission should hold further
hearings.
CHAIRi=iAiJ: Yes, Ana if use can make a recommendation to the
Council supNVrtera by the Planning Director on his honor, then we
could proceed with this. Would that be satisfactory?
C'TGOLc^^: ii~11; ~„u'r, to ;:;uimic your comments an a'
:crr~;a::ndtac?on on any t~roposed amendment initiated by the Planning
Director, I°rn not certain, you know, if this is an amendment that
has been initiated by the Planning L~1 _r ertrr.
__.-.a<:.t,r;::4: cdo, but i t would be a recommendation from us to
the Council.
MIZL'NO: But this was already recommended by the
Commission to the Planning Director.
CHAIRMAN: That's correct.
t^,IZUr,C: So it seems obvious to me that the Planning
Director would be able to revise his recommendation and add this
particular recommendation to his list.
G'TOOLE: Yes. So if he modifies an amendment or initiates
a new amendment upon the Planning Commission's request, then the
Planning Commission shall hold further hearings on it.
MIZUNG: But he is not modifying or revising it. We have
already made this recommendation.
O'TGGLE: To him and he rejected it?
LYtJ,AN: No, we didn't reject it. In responding, we
responded that we felt it was already done; and it was done through
interpretation.
CHAIRMAN: And that's where the question is. Legally, is
that interpretation correct?
O'TGGLE: No.
MILLS: Aio, the answer is no, right?
O'TOOLE: Right,
N,'ILLS: Mr. Chairman, I think we can end this pretty
soon. I just want something else to be brought up. .lust for
procedural, the dilemma that I'm in in this particular issue is that
if the Department is recommending that it be urban on the
interpretation, I cannot see why not ik just be changed to urban
already. But my concern here is that is it possible that this
Commission also l;roviae a recommendation other than uihat has already
been recommended to the Planning Department, but just directly to
the Council? bve can do that?
0°TGOL~E: 4vn_11, the only amendments that are going to be
considered are those initiated by the Planning Director, along with
your comments- and recommendations on those amendments>
NIILLS~ , _ - ?ai.11. ~„~l~ i,,„~i<°-a rotnments to the amendments?
U°T(~~~LE': On the Planning Director°s proposed aniendmants,
You had a chance to ask him to change his .~ix,a~,tdm=~nt~ y~ t~ ~,;°~.;,<< a,=_,,~;
amendrnents~ h.icii ,-,u ~ _t,sr i.ona hearing.
MILLS: T'he last Rona hearing we asked that you be
present or someone in your capacity be present so that we could
determine the legality of a letter of interpretation. Now if you
had concluded that that had equal weight as the Council's final
decision, which I didn't quite believe would be, then we'd say,
okay, let's yo for it.
O'.TCOLE: No, I meant the hearing before that when you made
suggestions to the Planning Director, would you consider changing
this to this and this to that; and then the Planning Director was to
come back to the Commission; and if he had modified one of his
amendments or made a new amendment because of your recommendation,
there would be further hearings. Now you closed the public hearing
and you are now suppose to submit to your Council, to the Council,
comments and recommendations on any of these proposed amendments
that the Planning Director has initiated.
MILL5: So you cannot add any more because it's closed,
right?
O'TOOLE: xight. So is this an amendment which the
Planning Director has initiated? And that's what I'm not clear in
my mind.
LYMAN: Well, we've initiated map changes that were not
previously referenced by ordinance.
NiIZUNO: Nir, Chairman?
CkiAJ.RhiAN: cor,}missioner Mizuno.
NiIZUNO: I would like to ask the Flanning Director again
to consider including this as part o£ his recommendation. And the
reason is I would feel much more comfortable having it included as
one of his recommendations. Because what is the difference in we
recommending to the Council, the Council recommending it back to the
Director? It still wasn't included as one of his recommendations,
And if he included it on, as one of his recommendations, then it
would be pretty hard to deny it at the very end,
CHAIk1~iAlu: well, as I understand it, the senior, the
Planning liirector has recommendations in this particular. regard anG
saying that it's subject to interpretation. Is that correct?
i,Yb1AN; That°s correct. And Corporation Counsel is
saying that the subject to interpretation down°t apply to snetiF°;.c
amendments.
~;.~iii?Ii::;r~rJ~ Lut_ it's still a recommendation from the Planning
liirector which we can make comments on, isn't that corr.^t 't
Ivilr.,LS; =`.z51 IY~.ii,~ 90i117f:etltS, ~eXOUSe me, Mr. ChalLman~
:,~{n !uahe cauiments. From what I'm interpreting here is that
comments we can make; and i.f the Planning Director changes his
recommendation that he's giving to us, then it has got to yo back
for public hearing.
CHAIRMAN; That's correct.
MILLS: So his request, my request is subject to a pub.Lic
hearing. Su then we would have to open up the public hearing again
fcr this particular issue.
LXMAN; I think perhaps what you could do is reopen this
public hearing.
CHAIRMAN: Yeah, well, let me get to that point right now.
The motion was made, I guess by you, Commissioner Mills, to close
the public hearing and seconded by Commissioner Mizuno. I have
requests from two people here in the audience that would like to
testify and would it be possible to reopen the hearing. And towards
that end, perhaps we would do that and also solve this problem.
NrILLS: Tf you'll remove your second, I'll remove my
motion.
NIIZUNO: I remove.
CHAIRMAN; Move to rescind.
HILLS: I so move.
IdiI'LUNp: Second .
CHAIRt~4Atd: Gkay. Any questions? All those in favor say aye.
COMMISSIONERS; Aye. Oppose, nay. Motion is carried, Public
hearing is reopened,
N;IZUNG; Mr. Chairman?
"HAIRMANc Commissioner Mizuno.
1'~iILL'IDO: i would like to call for a short recess so 1 can
think about what we have discussed the last few minutes.
CF}AIRIr;ADi: Oka~~, we°.11 take rive minutes.
RECESSED The Chair called a short recess at ?;a5 ;~~%r:~.
REC'ONVy,NED ?i~~, _..>>rd••~ i~:~~ui~.vened at 7:30 p<m.
C`hA?RNiANe 'i'he meeting will come back to order, Okay, ~_;-~-=e
public hearing has been reopened, I'~l J.ilr~~ ~n c_.is matter
settled firsk haa:r- ~.~~ro~~=~~ rcocved ;with further testimony, so just
=.r i.c,.,c ,;lth us, b~e'll get to you in a minute, okay.
LYMAN: I think Virginia can shed some light on this.
CHAIRMAN: Okay.
GOLDSTEIN: I think in
CH~?IRP'iAN: Turn your microphone on. Is it on?
GOLDSTEIN: It's on. In terms of the proposed revisions that
the Planning Commission had remanded back to the Planning Director,
those, Brian, correct me if I'm wrong, but my recollection is that
those were revisions and modifications to amendments that had been
listed and previously sent on to the Commission on through the, you
know, to go on to the County Council. And none of the proposed
revisions which the Planning Commission had asked the Director to
reconsider were any new amendments to the map, So that to begin
with, these were amendments as initiated by the Planning Director.
So, you know, in that sense then I would ask the question if then
the, you know, it's not as if it were a new amendment that they'd be
asking the Planning Director to consider. These are modifications
to something that he had already proposed as general map changes.
Can they, at this point, you know, submit also their comments and
recommendations on this that are already, have already surfaced as
the Director's, in the initial Director's proposed amendments?
O'TOOLE; Well, if the Director had recommended it, why is
it that the Commission felt he hadn't recommended it.
GOLDSTEIN: These were expansions or revisions
O'TOOLE: This is all, you know, in general terms because I
don't have anything specifically in front of me. But if the
Director made the recommendation in the first place, is what you're
saying, why is the Commission saying will you consider this change?
GOLDSTEIN: These are revisions and modification upon
something that he had already passed on, In the case of, say, for
example, the one that's up right now, that was one of the items that
was listed. but what it amounts to is an addition to that area,
Likewise, there were two others, Z believe, that are additions,
additional areas to the amendment that he had initially passed
through.
LYMAivs rare of the answer comes back to the one inch
equals two miles; and last night Mr. Henry Ross was questioning
whether the University of Hawaii Etc-nsion Field Service fr. tvo,-;~.h
Y.ohala was c,n ore parr.:=. 1. de,j.gna~.-..iri, aaiot:kier. And it does come
'a G~l7- Lis Lh@ a:L .L @!iUna ~~f, y0u know, 1S SUm2tl'r lily Ofl th1S parcel Or' cn
the nest parcel, dealing with the map drawn to scale.
G'TGOLE, °es; kr°.11, .,~ayyeer_iny though is that
l.c °c ms's no d.;.leiama, if there was an ordinance saying the map is
changed, then the designation is changed on this piece of land.
Now, Virginia, what you're saying is that the Planning Director had
made a proposal, the Commission recommended that the proposal be
changed in some way, and the Planning Director rejected that change
or changed it?
LY41AN: No, ~,ve weren't rejecting it. Lae were saying that
the change that was being made a.tready reflecL-ed it. By no means
were we rejecting those changes, those recommendations.
O'TOOLE: Well, what is the recommendation at this point?
How does it
LYMAN: The recommendation at this point is those changes
include and incorporate those specific parcels that were being
recommended by the Commission back to myself as being included.
O'TOOLE: So are you changing your original recommendation?
LYMAN: No. 2°ni saying that our response to the
Commission was not a rejection of their recommendation.
O'TOOLE: Does it change your original recommendation?
MILLS: It certainly does.
CHAIRMAN: I think, are we talking about this Puainako
Street by Prince Kuhio Plaza?
MILLS : Y"~s .
CHAIRMAN: Okay, the original, the recommendation on the
General Plan comprehensive review land use pattern allocation guide
map changes was to convert a portion of the area surrounding the
Prince Kuhfo Plaza from industrial to high density urban> And the
recommendation that came out of the Commission and the general
public was redesignate the area which is on the southeastern corner
of Kanoelehua Avenue and Puainako Street south of the Prince Kuhio
d n
Plaza complex irou~ low density to high density urban, These are the
comments I've got here,
LYMAN: And our response
CHAIRMAN: We're talking about both into high density
urban. His response was that that has a1r5a s ;~~;,a:~. The area,
whether it°~ lor; :-:~~x ?;aL~ 1,~~y a, y, z or z, y, a, it°s included .in
thti bc~~i~at,rush general scope of things and is subject to
interpretation.
1.~IZONC° ~tr.~1l, '~~:r.:fi_'s r_n@ Problem, It is upon his
<_._,:im.inacion; and Corporation Counsel has just told us tonight that
that would not hold water.
LYMAN: No, it's in the context of the review with a
recommendation that we were originally making, that was originating
out of this review process. The recommendation out of the review
process was expanding upon a change made by amendmentY
C.HAIRMA:d: There were some particular properties involved
and it wasn°t really certain whether they were included in this
broadbrushed high density urban or not. And I don't know exactly
where the boundary lines exist for this particular recommendation
that the Planning Director has made. It's certainly not on a map of
that size. Okay, so that's probably where the problem lies. We're
talking about a parcel of land that's maybe 12,000 square feet as
compared to the area
MILLS: hir. Chairman?
CHAIRMAN; Yes, Commissioner Mills,
MILLS: Could the Planning Department show me on the map
this property that we're talking about that is painted in a color
that would designate that high density urban?
LYMAN: Brian.
CHAIRMAN: You better yo over there and take a look. It's
mighty small.
P%iILLS: Loes .it include?
NISHIMURA: Well, the Planning Director has said that it does
include it.
MILLS: What is your interpretation?
NISHIMURA: Ede cannot distinguish property lines on this map.
MILLS: Okay, that's my point. 'Phere is a gray area of
determination of whether it is or .it is not, And the only way that
we can determine that is to indicate it in writing as a
recommendation to the Council.
CHAIRMAN: Do you have a tax map key on the land in
question? Are you talking about land map keys or what? We're
talking General Plan, the broadbrushed General Plan her_~, fdrsa
not talking specifics, regional or .~_re,~ t.;.lar~s, c,r anytl~,ing elseo
We're talking about the General flan. And I don't know, do you want
~:<,t _nto _reco~nrending plots of land to be included in this
br~~adbr_ushed thing when it's colored the same ~,~av hers?
viZLLS: r _-.emendation by Commissioner Mizuno was
~xpilcit. but when the interpretation, what I'm concerned
about is when the Planning Director brought it back to us he said
that he can be handled by a letter of interpretation.
NISHIMURP.: Commissioner Nills.
PALLS: Yes.
taISHTb'IURA: Niay I read the description that describes each of
those numbers on the map; and the one that I'd like to direct your
attention to is Item No. 11 which says, "Convert a portion of the
area surrounding the Prince Kuhio Plaza from industrial to high
density urban." Now, you know, to me that's a general statement
which doesn't tie down the specific location of the area surroundin g
Prince Kuhio Plata. And what I'm reading, when I read that
description and I read our explanation to you in the July 29, 1987
memo, I think it can be interpreted to mean that the area is covered
by or can be interpreted to be within this change No. 11.
MILLS: Brians I understand what you're saying and I
respect what the Planning Director has been saying for the last
week. But Corporation Counsel has informed us that that doesn't
hold water.
O"TOOLS: Well, let me say this. The question that I was
asked this afternoon or this morning was if these changes were made,
being made to conform to a particular ordinance, in other words, the
amendment was being suggested by the Planning Director to reflect a
change made by the Council through an ordinance, could the Director
then interpret other than what was in tine ordinance? And my answer
to that is no. If there had been a proposal that is more general
than just tied to the ordinance, then I would say it's like the rest
of the stuff where you may not be, you know, it may be covered
within there.
CHAIRI~;AN: Your answer then is yes?
O`TOCLS': If it's not tied to a specific ordinance, a
specific amendment, yes. So it depends upon the proposal that has
een considered. And what I caas asked today was in the instance
.here it was, the change was being made because the r_ouncil had
changed it and the proposal was being made to reflect what the
Council had done, in which case the Planning Director couldn°t be
going outside of that. Now if what they're saying tonight is
something else, that's something else.
CHAIPMAN: Part of the dilemma is the fact that the C_oun:~.y
Council through ordinance changes, rez~.nirc; eh~r, ;:::.a ar.'~u~~d file
Prince K11h 10 a±`f'.? i.~; :~ji •"v!d Ci OtJ nit th P_ ZQnl.ng OVer there. An CI
Lois is, this xecornmendat_ion PJO, 11 converts the rest of it intc the
same general use, without being specific. Is that what ~,~e°~~
talking about, N,r. rirectorq or ~re;:s;'t you 1i_=,~~•_~i,~-,
~..:~~s;~•~e I was listening. Yes.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So I don't know where your dile~,ma is at
here. You know, we're, evidently it's not satisfactory, this Item
No. 11. The recommended changes has not been acted upon by the
Planning Director and we don't know what to do about it now, is that
correct?
L,Y^aAN: No. Again, as it relates to the area around th e
Prince Kuhio Shopping Mall, we were making a change to expand that;
and it's very clear. So as it relates to that
CHAIRMAN: Expand, which has already been converted by the
County Council through zoning changes?
LYMAN: That's correct.
CHAIRMAN: Gkay, is that satisfactory to you? No?
MIZUNO; Mr. Chairman?
CHAIRMAN: Commissioner Mizuno.
MIZUNO: If we recommended to the Council that this
specific amendment be included and the County Council returns,
recommends it back to the Planning Director, I would like to ask the
Planning Director if he would be willing to include it?
LYMAN: No. What we would then say is it is alreaq;~
included.
NiIZUNO: That's what I mean. That's why I said earlier,
you know, if you won't do it now, I don't know if you can do it when
it gets back from the Council.
LYMAN: And that would also to apply to the site south of
Ylaikoloa.
CHAIRMAN: Where°s the problem? Is the fact that, he says
this particular parcel is included and you don°t believe that? Is
that correct? is that where we°re at? Am I Leiny 'too straight
forward? I don°t know.
PTILUNC: Let's say I believe the Planning Director. But
tet°s suf~pose the Planning Director is not going to be our Planning
Director forever, And let's suppose that when this particular party
wants to construct something on the property we have a different
Planning Directoro The Planning Director at that time r_ould
.L fi is 'c r't: '.:,'G L:1 '7 'I_L ~`_=CI1 ail %.4 YI it :°_r
LYMAN: vaell, for things that are subject to
i.nrer~;Ye~:dtlCn~ lt'S good to get their! ~n;qn in iy;-itipr, T al-'c~
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NiILLS: Mr. Chairman?
CHAIRMAN: Commissioner Mills.
MILLS: The issue could very well be settled if the
Director, Planning Department, will take the recommendation that is
1~resented by this Commission.
LYMAN: Well, in the case of both those recommendations,
my response is that they are already reflected. This is both the
one in the vicinity of the Prince Kuhio Mall and the one that's
south of the Waikoloa Resort.
MILLS: It is?
LYMAN: That's correct.
CHAIRMAN: So we're saying the same thing.
MILLS: Yeah, I agree with what you're saying and so on.
But this lady is a legal officer here; and she's telling me, from
what I'm hearing, no, you cannot.
CHAIRMAN: No, she didn't say that.
MILLS: Well, she said she's a little worried because she
doesn't know how the proposal or the amendment
CHAIRMAN: If the recommended changes are in reference ko
ordinance changes that the Council has initiated and acted upon in
past rezoning actions, those are bound, in effect, by law and cannot
be interpreted by the Planning Director. Those areas which have not
been designated or changed by County Council by ordinance are
subject to the interpretations by the Planning Department and the
Planning Commission in rezoning actions, and thus to the County
Council. This is saying it should be in that same general area as
the rest of them. Ydhat you°re saying is the same thing that he's
saying.
mis_
LYMAiv: zes, with respect to the two queries made by th
Planning Commissioner, the two recommendations, my response would b~
now and into the future that they are already reflected.
N,ILLS: Yeaho Giell, what I'm saying is I like it,
right. But the gray area comes from right here.
G°TOOLE'. I think that, though, it has been clarified to me
ca'-_ _1 i.U'- :J i ':dP~ L.Jr <.la ;_i, :At r. is ..1 LaltG a .Sf-Etilf li.i
ordi7:anoe, righ~?
C'HAIRMAl~Ia Yes, Anra, consequently, it fines ;ant Home n,~rt ns~
;al=: u. i =x yn~lC v1. ~~Rdl1, :yl YI~J ',L~
O'TOGLE: This proposal was not made only because of an
ordinance, is not limited to an ordinance. There may be a couple of
others that are.
CHAIRMAN: That's correct.
^4ILLS: Therefore, it's okay?
CHAIRMAN: Yes.
O'TOOLE: Right.
CHAIRMAN: Okay?
O'TOOLE: Therefore, there is room for interpretation now.
Now I'm not saying if it's ten miles away or something. But if it's
in that area, yes, if it's in that area as described in this
amendment.
MILLS: Yes.
CHAIRMAN: All right. Okay. I'd like to move on.
MILLS: That's on tape, right?
NOMORA: Yes.
CHAIRMAN: I'd like to move on. We have 103 suggested
changes cn the maP: and o~e're dwelling an awful lot of time on one.
N,ILLS: I think it's a very serious issue.
CHAIRMAN: 4ue11, I grant you,
MILLS: She has explained it so fine,
CHAIRMAN; Gkay, fine, Is that answer to your satisfaction
then?
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r~7ILL5: xes.
CHAIRMAN: Ckay, great, Now tae°11 hear testimony from the
two people who want to testify here. Nir. Winterbottom, would you
come %orwar.~a, please.
WINTERBOTTOM: Am I going to be sworn in or
TrJIiVTERBOTTOM: Do you need to swear me in?
:i3-J ~ Li _~7~ucii Yi)1 ~~i'ta~ ~a ti 11 ctLC ~.dtl(_j ~'L i»~_rl ~L Vllf
last time we met in Naalehu. Just state your name again in to the
microphone.
WINTERBOTTOM: My name is Glenn 4vinterbottom, resident of
Naalehu town and a member of the Punaluu Preservation Committee. I
had kind of a long speech written up here but I think since there's
kind of a small crowd I think I'll kind of just cruise through it.
CHAIRMAN: Yes, please do because we're heard your testimony
before and I'd rather have refreshing kind rather than stale.
WINTERBOTTOM: Okay. Following the referral to the Planning
Department for consideration of those twelve proposals we made last
time, one of our recommendations gained that agency's full
concurrence and three others were to varying degrees partially
adopted. At the present time, we are awaiting a written response
from the Planning Department as to why 11 of our proposals were
found to be either completely unacceptable or worthy of only partial
approval. In the meantime, I have been advised by the Planning
Director Albert Lyman to reiterate our recommendation during this
public hearing. But maybe I can ask if there is anything you'd like
to hear again of those proposals
CHAIRMAN: Well, let me put it this way, if there's
something that you feel very important, that's fine. What I would
like to stress is that your testimony from the last hearing in
Naalehu plus your well organized booklet that you submitted for
written testimony and others will be forwarded to the Council for
their consideration.
uJINTE;RBUTTGNi: I see.
CHAIRMAN: And we have Councilman Kokubun here; and I'm sure
he will look very closely to what you're recommending from that
particular part of the island.
WINTERBOTTOM: But doesn't the Planning Commission make
recommendation on these proposals?
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PLANNING DEPARTMENT
26 AUPU NI STREET HILO. HA~NAII 88720 DANTE K. CARPENTER
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COUNTY OF ALBERT LONO LYMAN
HAWAII Director
TIM LC?I-K WAN
Deputy Director
October 26, 1988
Mr. Sidney M. Fuke, Principal
Sidney Fuke & Associates
100 Pauahi Street, Suite 212
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
Dear Mr. Fuke:
Change of Zone Application
Matsuno Enterprises, Ltd.
RS-10 to CG-20
TMK: 2-2-40:14 and 69
This is to clarify our letter to you of October 6, 1988,
regarding the General Plan designation for the area of the subject
properties. We provide you with the following:
1. Under the existing General Plan LUPAG Map, the parcels are
located within the Low Density Urban Development
designation.
2. Ordinance No. 475, relating to the Prince Kuhio Plaza and
area adopted by the County Council on October 3, 1979,
specified that the change from Industrial to High Density
Urban Development designation is not to exceed forty (40)
acres. This designation is described as being located at
the northeastern corner of Puainako Street and Kanoelehua
Avenue.
3. At the August 19, 1987 Planning Commission hearing on the
comprehensive General Plan review draft revisions, the
Corporation Counsel clarified that if a General Pian land
use designation had been adopted by an ordinance reflecting
a specific amendment, then the Planning Director could not
interpret other than what was described in the ordinance.
ATTACF~IQdP # 6
Mr. Sidney M. Fuke
October 26, 1988
Page 2
4, During the General Plan comprehensive review period, one of
the Planning Director's recommended changes to the LUPAG
map involved converting Industrial designated land,
surrounding Prince Kuhio Plaza shopping center, to High
Density Urban designation. The basis for this
recommendation was due to the shift of residential growth
in the Waiakea Homestead/Waiakea Uka area as well as in the
Puna District. As a result, proposed Amendment No. 11
states, "Convert a portion of the area surrounding the
Prince Kuhio Plaza from Industrial to High Density Urban."
This amendment is intended to expand the High Density Urban
Development designation in a broader area without being
specific as to acreage or location. With this in mind and
as explained at the Planning Commission August 19th
hearing, should the amendment be adopted as part of the
comprehensive review process by the County Council, this
amendment can then be interpreted to include the subject
properties within proposed Amendment No. 11.
For your information, we have enclosed a copy of Ordinance No.
475 and excerpts from the August 19, 1987 Planning Commission
hearing transcript.
Based on the above, please be advised that in order to pursue
the requested change of zone, you have the option of waiting until
such time as the County Council adopts the revised General Plan
LUPAG Map (including proposed Amendment No. 11) or filing a formal
petition for a General Plan Amendment as noted in our earlier letter
(October 6, 1988).
Should you have any questions, please feel free to contact our
office.
Si cerely,
ALBERT LONG LYMAN
Planning Director
AK:aeb
Enclosures
November 4, 1988
Mr. Steve Yamashiro, Chairman
County Council
County of Hawaii
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
Dear Chairman Yamashiro:
Re: General Plan Update Program
Proposed High Density
TMK: 2-2-40: 14 and 69
I am presently the owner of two parcels of land situated
on the southeastern corner of the Puainako Street/Kanoelehua
Highway intersection. These parcels consist of approximately
6.6+ acres and are identified by TMK: 2-2-40: 14 and 69.
This area forms one of the four corners of the
intersection. Directly to the north of the subject property
is the Prince Kuhio Shopping Plaza. Situated across or west
of the subject property is the KTA Shopping Complex.
As the attached report indicates, the subject area is
locationally suitable for commercial uses. While there may
be some on-site development constraints, they are not
insurmountable and can be worked out during the development
phases of this project.
This matter was considered by the Planning Commission
during its review of the proposed updated General Plan.- No
action was taken then, as it was thought triat said area was
already part of the High Density Urban area. To be sure,
however, we would appreciate the Council including the
subject properties as part of the High Density Urban area in
your General Plan update program.
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Sincerely,
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REX MATSUNO, PRESIDENT
SUISAN, LTD.
P. O. Hox 366
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
Enc,
rr: Councilman Domingo, Planning Committee w/enc
Hawaii County Planning Commission
Hawaii County Flanning Director
ATTAC! SNP # 7
Honorable Russell Kokubun, Chairman
County Council
County of Hawaii
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
Dear Chairman Kokubun:
RE: General Plan Update Program
Su gested Land Use Changes
As you are aware, your Committee on Planning recommended
to the Council that all suggestions made by members of the
Council and/or Committee to both the General Plan document
and Land Use Pattern Allocation Guide (LUPAG) map be
forwarded to the Planning Director and Planning Commission
for their review and recommendation. It should be emphasized
that this position does not imply a commitment of any sort
for any of the suggested amendments. Rather, they reflect
the Committee's desire to give each proposal its due
consideration.
Accordingly, the Chair took a position to have all
suggested changes to the General Plan LUPAG map be further
reviewed by the Planning Director and Commission. These
suggestions are covered in the bill before you.
Regrettably, however, the Chair inadvertently overlooked
a request formally made by Suisan, Ltd. last year to have the
southeastern corner of the Puainako Street/Kanoelehua Highway
intersection designated for High Density Urban Development.
The Chair would thus appreciate your and the Council's
consideration in having this matter included as part of the
Council's package of suggestions for review by the Planning
Director and Commission.
Thank you very much.
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ATT11Q-1MINP #8
Hawaii County Council February 1`.i, 1989
CHR. KOKUBUN: Mr. Domingo.
MR. D MINGO: In addition to what you just ment:.oned,
Mr. Ctarrman, of Draft 3 reflecting the reformatted
plan ith the suggested changes of the Councilmc~mbers,
we ha also intended for consideration at this
meeting, amendments which are found on Page 3, cahich
is in response to Mr. Teru Morigaki's letter an~i
Mr. M tsuno's letter and also, a letter submitted by
Mrs, Bale.
CHR. OKUBUN: Okay, let's try to walk through *his
thing one more time. We're going to approve Bill 402,
Draft 2; move to amend Bill 402, Draft 2, as pe: Draft
3; anc move to further amend Bill 402, Draft 3, by the
suggestions that Mr. Domingo has just stated,
Mr. M tsuno's, Mr. Morigaki's, Mrs, bale's. We will
clarify all of these motions as well as the amendment
regarcing other considerations to incorporate the
support document as Exhibit "C" to the document, okay.
So, M Domingo, I think, would you please make that
motio
Mr. Domingo moved for the passage of
Bill 402, Draft 2. Seconded by Miss Lai.
CHR. OKUSUN: It's been moved and seconded tha= we
appro e Bill 402, Draft 2. Mr. Domingo.
AMENDMENT: Mr. Domingo moved to amend Sill 402,
Draft 2, to reflect the changes as
submitted under Draft 3. Seconded by
Miss Lai.
CHR. 'OKUBUN: It's been moved and seconded that we
amend Bill 402, Draft 2, as per the amendments found
in Bi 1 402, Draft. 3. Mr. Domingo.
MR. DOMINGO: And Mr. Chairman, to further reflect the
Chang s that have been submitted since our last
Counc 1 meeting with respect to Mr. Matsuno and
Mr. M rigaki, I would like to further amend Draft 3 to
refle t the changes as submitted on Page 3 also to
incluce Mrs. Hate's suggestion with respect to
Pages 52 and 53, minor resorts and retreat resort.
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ATTA(}~7Q1P #9
Hawaii County Council February 1`i, 1989
AMENDMENT: Mr. Dominyo moved to further amend
Bill 402, Draft 3 to include
Mrs. Hales suggestion with respect to
pages 52 and 53, minor resorts and
retreat resort. Seconded by Miss Lai.
CHR. OKUBUN: It's been moved and seconded that we
Furth r amend Bi11 402, Draft 3.
Let mE just be specific about this, Mr. Domingo.
The a endments being to add to the LUPAG map
appli ant, Suisan, Ltd., TMK: 2-2-40:14 and 69;
appli ant Teruo Morigaki, TMK: 2-7-30:Portion o-
Parce] 1.
Also, to amend Pace 52, Minor Resort, amend the first
paragraph as follcws: "A minor resort area whi~;h is
genet lly an area with many small property owners or
an isclated resort development without sufficie;~t land
area o develop into a self-contained destination
area.
MR. DOMINGO: Mr. Chairman.
CHR. OKUBUN: Yee.
MR. D MINGO: I would suggest that rather than taking
a def Hite action on Item 2, that the Planning
Department look at the suggested amendment and respond
to us so we can consider it and vote on that am=_ndment
in th. final stages of the adoption of the Plan, if
it's okay with Mr=. Hale.
MRS. EALE: Yeah, that's okay because actually, they
have ro number on the minor resort. My proposal was
to put a number ors the retreak resort to leave it at
100 icstead of going up to 500 like they had
suggested. So, they should put a number on minor
resort, so, you know, I have no objections.
MR. D MINGO: And perhaps, we should press them for
the r asoning for upping that amount to 500.
MRS. SALE: Is there a reason? I don't---
MR. D MINGO: We11, I understand that they were
conce ned that thc~ feasibility of developing a minor
resor consisting of only 100 or so would be a losing
propo.ition for them and that the recouperation of
that oney would tie near impossible.
338
Hawaii County Counci February 15, 1989
CHR. OKUBUN: Fine. Okay, does that close the
amend eats at thi~~ point?
MR. D MINGO: Yes.
CHR. fOKUBUN: Okay, Mrs. Inouye.
MRS. NOUYE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just for
clarification and my understanding. What I hear today
is thet any amendments that are to be made, we •~re
referring to be made by Councilmembers and no ore else
will to able to do that? I'm kind of confused
because, why are Fe going to the Planning Commi.~sion.
If so e of us memt~ers would want to further see some
deletions at the Flanning Commission's public
heari gs, you meat. we're not going to be afforded a
time r the public is not going to be afforded ,sny
input at that time?
CHR. OKUB[JN: I don't believe that's the situa-:ion.
MRS. NOUYE: Oh, okay.
CHR. OKUBUN: Do, you want to address that, Duane?
MRS. INOUYE: So, why are we saying that we wi1L have
to do it now?
CHR. OKUBUN: So that, well, why don't we let '~)uane
explain this.
MRS. INOUYE: Okay, thank you.
MR. K.NUHA: Again, the way the ordinance reads is
that the modifications and/or amendments that a:e
directed or requested for us to consider as a result
of the r_ouncil's deliberations on the General Plan,
those are the only ones that will go out for the
Planning Commission review.
MRS. LE: Could you enumerate which ones those are
so we'll be specific?
MR. K NUHA: Well, at this point in time, they would
be all of those items that are listed under Sec~.ion 7
of Pa e 117, plus the additional request by
Counc'lman Domingo and from you, Councilwoman Hale, in
addition to other editorial and context changes that
were ode to the document when it was reformatted.
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QFFICE OF THE CDUN`IY CLERK
County of Hawaii
Hawaii County Building
2.5 l~aPl[Rt StTFCf
Hifo, Hawaii 96720
February 28, 1989
Duane Kanuha, Planning Director
Planning Department
County of Aawaii
25 Aupuni St.
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
RE: General Plan
The County Council, at its meeting of February 15, 1989, moved
to refer the attached Bill No. 402, Draft 4, and the General
Plan Support Document, as amended, to the Planning Department
for its review. In addition, the Council has requested that
Proposed General Plan Amendments 43,.44, and 89 be reconsidered.
All the testimony received regarding,Kohala Ranch's proposed
General Plan Amendment and other related communications are
being referred to you for consideration.
~L%"'""
J hn Wagner
UNTY CLERK
Att.-- 5
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SECTION 7. Land Use Pattern Allocation Guide Map. The Land Use
Allocation Map for the Island of Hawaii is hereby adopted as
referenced to as Exhibit "A".
[(a) Include language to update Council's changes.]
The Planning Director is directed to amend the Land Use
Allocation Map to include the following amendments included and
adopted by the Council in this ordinance:
1. Applicant: Hirose Nursery
Tax Map Key: 2-2-44:35 & 37 (Approximately 8 Acres)
Request: From Low Density Urban to Medium Density Urban
Location: Waiakea Homesteads, South Hilo
2. Applicant: Hale O Kau
Tax Map Key: 7-2-05: 1 (Approximately 1,001 Acres)
Request: From Agricultural, Orchard, Open and Conservation to
Low Density Urban
Location: Keahole, North Kona
3. Applicant: Palani Ranch Company, Inc.
Tax Map Key: 7-4-02: Portion of 08 (Approximately 25 Acres)
Request: From Agricultural to Alternate Urban Expansion
Location: Honokohau I, North Kona
4. Applicant: Jack Ujimori and Yoshiaki Shioda
Tax Map Key: 2-2-33:11, 19 & 20 (Approximately 2.036 Acres)
Request: From Urban to Industrial
Location: Waiakea Houselots, South Hilo
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5. Applicant:. Leonard Paresa
Tax Map Key: 6-4-24:27 (Approximately 3 Acres)
Request: Agricultural to Low Density Urban
Location: Waimea, Hawaii
6. Applicant: Oceanic Properties, Inc.
Tax Map Key: 5-5-06: Portion of 10 & 5-5-07: Portion of 2
(Approximately 250 Acres)
Request: From Agricultural to Low Density Urban and
Urban Expansion
Location: North Kohala, Hawaii
7. Applicant: Richfield of Hawaii, Inc.
Tax Map Key: 1-4-91-18 (Approximately 74.9 Acres)
Request: From Conservation to Extensive Agricultural
Location: Pahoa, Hawaii
8. Applicant: Suisan, Ltd.
Tax Map Key: 2-2-40: 14 & 69
Request: From Low Density Urban Development to
High Density Urban Development
9. Applicant: Teruo Morigaki
Tax Map Key: 2-7-30: Portion of Parcel 1
Request: From Extensive Agricultural and Alternate Urban
Expansion to Medium Density Urban. (Property is
currently zoned Residential (RS-20)).
The Planning Director is directed to amend the Land Use
Allocation Map by deleting the following proposed amendments:
1. Identified on the Land Use Allocation Map as number 106,
involving an area in the Kealakekua land division, makai of the
Lower Government Main Road. Proposed amendment: From Orchards
and Urban Expansion to Low Density Urban.
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May 8, 1989
Honorable Russell Kokubun, Chairman
and Members
County of Hawaii
County Council
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo HI 95720
Dear Chairman Kokubun and Members:
Proposed Revisions to the General Plan
Enclosed for your information are copies of the proposed
revisions to the General Plan which I have forwarded to the Planning
Commission.
These are in the form of replacement pages to Bill 402, draft 4,
and reflect changes from revisions which the Council had proposed.
We have also included a Table of Disposition of all of your
proposed changes and a flow chart €or the proposed comprehensive
review amendment procedure to aid your review.
However, should you have any questions, please do not hesitate
to contact us.
Sincerely,
. ~ ~ " ``t.1
AUANE KANUHA
Planning Director
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cc: Mayor
Dep. Managing Director
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Table of Disposition
General Plan Revisions
Page Item Disposition
2 (amendment) Deleted
3 -4. Other consider- Revised; moved to p. 1i9, new
atians Section 9; this is not ar,
assumotior..
3/4 Relating to Series C Deleted; to be carried within
and population support document, p. 13-15; support
distribution document to be re-integrated and
adopted a_= part of the ordinance
Exhibit C.
6 Added new policy From proposed energy element pclic~.
p, Q, r. z.
7 Added new oolicy From proposed Land Use/Agricuitura'
policy p. ~1, r5.
7 Policies 1 & 2 relating Mov2d to public facilities policy
CIP budgets P•
7 Policy 3 relating to Deleted, carried in existing
zoning/land use standard, Land Use, p. 39.
apps-ications
7 Policy 4, relating to OK with minor revisions
tourism promotion
7 Policy 5, relating to Revised, moved to Kau profi'_es
space-related launch course of action, p. 1C6.
facilities
9 Policy 1, relating to OF
geothermal resources
~ PO1~C`--' 2, r°_'. at:.z nn `_O RPV15ed, 'S'OV °r_= t0 eCOnOm~C =nc~'.r
p:; ,r,- CJ~°-
alcer-~ate eP.ergV b'y'- P011Cy, D. o: c prO~L_°r
rOdnChc Of dCt10.^., _
` course o£ ac dor., p. 91.
17 ~o:icy 1, elating to Deleted, carri~.o in. eaisti~:-_
~.er QuC~~t~ _...C dG_v~ ."'.t G.~.CGrd,
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17 Policy 2., relating to Combined & reviser.
wild_ife habitats and
Policy 4, relating to
forest areas with unique
biotic characteristics
17 Policy 3, relating to OK
landscaping
17 Policy 5, relating to Deleted
protection of all
natural resources
17 Policy 6, relating to De'~ete; toc specific; consideration
endangered birds for this expressed as coal and
standard, p. 15/17.
17 ?o L cy 7, relating to Delete, considerations carried
anchialine pools through existinc standard, p. 18.
22 Added three policies From economic element, ~oiicies 1 &
relating to capital 2, n. 7; .from public utilities,
improvement programs policy 3, p. 25.
25 Policies 1 and 2, re- Delete, consideration= ir,cludec
lacing to planning and within Land Use standards, 2 s 3,
development in high p. 35.
growth areas
25 Policy 3, relating to Revised; moved to public
CIP programs plans - facilities, n. 22; la;:d ?se, p. 3c.
nigh growth areas
26 Policy 1, relating to Delete; programmatic and got
social impacts, programs wit'r.in Cocnty functions.
27 Policy nl, relating to Delete, already mandated by lag: and
~:ater quality in standards, p. 29/30.
30 Added policy, relating From Doge 7 with reviszcns; ~lso
tc C1Ps ircm o. 2~.
31 ?O1:Cy cl, reldt=nQ t0 Deleted, LeLalneC] 2x1CL:.^.g
aublic access revision.
3= ~oli~v ~et,;s!Gn, relit- Oi'.
1^~ t0 ff:a SS L'an5it
3~ ..-'.GC D011C_V C?latl P. G_ .'_vm D. : . rEVl~10`:°O: c_EO
~G Ci°s am D'_c,^.S C.
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38 ?olicy =I, relating to i!oved to a. 9uF. course o.
a 2nd urban center, action, Yor.a profile.
Glast ijaWall
38 Policies n2 & ~3, relat- Combined, revised.
ing to community develop-
ment plan=_
38 Policies ? and 5, relating Loved back to support docur~~ent,
to urban, rural and p. i74A, deleted, rural residential
agricultural designations density cap.
39 Policies 1 and 2 relatinc h;oved back to support document,
agricultural designations p, 175.
40 Goal revision, relating Deleted; considerations included
to ur.iaue agricultural in definition oz important aa_*icul-
land tural lands (p. 1fi0, support
document).
41 Policies 1 ar,d 2 relatinc Revised
to important agricultural
lands
41 Policy °3, relating to Deleted
agricultural industries
41 Policy n4 relating to Deleted
restriction of non-
agricultural uses in
agricultural areas
Sl Policy u5 relating to Revised and moved to: 2conorio
support of sugar element, n. 7; carried as ex_stiac
industry course of action, S. 6ilo, a. 62,
C]. Hilo, p. 71, Hamakua, p. 76.
~2 Added policy relative Policy added in place o` deletion
t0 landSCaDinC Open Oi Standar0 On CrOUnd CO'?er ra~1C
space rp_ 46).
q5 Added policy relating to Policy added in place o~ the
i.andscaninc, open space deletion of standard or: orour.c
~b D21et10r? Or ...`_anCard Cc., adCeC GOL1Cy ir~L~~..
p'_arit lnO tq ?rGG.'1C cC'?er CL D, C7, -7.
_ L.CG tl~l° ~'1 al Lc51_=..~ 7cleteO
to S=r.c' . ~ ~ _ _
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48 ?o lic•? i relating to Moved, re-introduced ir. support
rural-resi^ential documents, p. 182.
density
48 ?olicy r2 relating to OK
rural style residential
48 Policy n3 relating to Delete, error in section.
r=sort development
48 Added policy relating to Combines concerns o` policy rl,
re-examina_ion of land p. 48, and policy ``-4, o~ 38.
use codes/r'~ral-resi-
dential su'~divisions
50-52 Revision o= standard Revised
relating tc employes
housing ratio
52 Revision o_' standard OK
relating tc maximum
units for minor resorts
52 Addition standard Establishes density.
relating tc minimum
acreage for minor resort
53 Revision o' standard OK
relating to unit for
retreat resort
55 Revision to course of From proposed policy energy eieme,t
action by Geothermal p. 9•
bv-products
55 Addition course of action From proposed policy energy elemect
relating tc geothermal p. 9.
research program
57 Cour_e o°_ action relating Deleted.
to long-ra~Ge plans for
Pahoa, Keaau and Nt. View
JCnOOIS
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L°la'i^4 DG11C1cS e}:: St 1.^C COU C.~~ O" aCC=O::v _ 7i.
57 Cocrse of action =3 OK
relatinc t~ E'~iT services
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62 Course o.f action ~1 OF
relating to master land
use p'_an for University
and surrounding lands
62 Course of action ;2 Revised, moved to public facilities
relating to the Univer- p. 64
sity of Hawaii at Hilc
62 Course of action r3 Moved to public facilities, p. 6~
relating to University
of Hawaii research park
63 Course of action `-`1 OK
relating to Afook-Chinen
Auditorium
53 Course of action R2 Delete, similar to course o` action.
relating to a Foreign p. 69
Trade Zone and air
cargo distribution
63 Course of action ~3 OK
relating to Kalakaua
lark Heritage area
64 Added two courses of From p. 62, economic course of
relating to University action, Hilo profile.
of Hawaii
69 Course of action rl OK with minor revision.
relating to air cargo
dis~rihution
92 Added course of action From economic element, o. 38.
relation to Ocean
Thermal Energy converter
94 Added course of action From land use e~ement, p. 33.
relating to second
~.~rba^ cer.*_er
1C6.-.dried course of action From economic element, p. 7
relating co space-related
_~unct. ~ct~. .__F~
'_09 =.e~~-:s'_cn to ccurse c' G:'
=.ct:on r~latir.? to
diversified acricul'~_ure
and ~:.ac~damia nut industry
111- Revisions to the com- Further revised.
113 prehensive review
proced'~re
117 Addition to LUPAG map Not initiated.
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117 Addition to LUPAG map Initiated.
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117 Addition. to LUPAG map Initiated.
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117 Addition to LUPAG map Clot initiated; already reco:r~menced
=4 as item =13.
118 Addition to LUPAG map Not initiated.
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118 Addition to LUPAG map C]ot initiated.
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118 Addition to LUPAG map Not initiated, already recommended
;=7 as item =2.
118 Addition to LUPAG map Ciot initiated.
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118 Addition to LUPAG map Not initiated.
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118 Deletion LUPAG map Initiated chance.
item 106
118A Consider LUPAG map Initiated chances as ite-s 44A, s,
changes (r44) in area C.
of Kahua (KOha1a Ranch)
118A Consider LUPAG map Init;ated as 43A.
c!;ance in area of Kahua
f C i 4 3
118 A. Consider LUPAG map Deleted aS9.
chance in the coastal
area r,_~ F:onaie tt:ro°rcl:
Keoou (=39)
119 Sun~or~ doc°,~ment Adds ne>: Secticr. inc~_~Cr~ti'.c
as °x`:bit C, S cporc
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Exhibit C Su~oo~t Document
179 Revis_ons tc land use P.e-introduced, except lcw density
desic~ations deleting urban; revised low density urban
maxir.,~m units desianatidr. definition.
177 iist'_na of urban center Added urban center in North Kohaia
district.
182 Re-introduced paragraph From p. 38.
in rural-residential
Natural Resources ?xamples I:ot included.
for all dis.ricts
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SUGGESTED CHANGES NOT INITIATED ON LUPAG MAP
PUNA DISTRICT
1. RICHFIELD OF HAWAII, INC.: Change from Conservation to
Extensive Agriculture
The subject area is located along and at the corner of the
Kapoho-Pahoa Road and Kaimu-Kapoho Road at the base of Green Lake
Hill in Kapoho.
Originally, the area was suggested for a change from
Conservation to Extensive Agriculture so as to establish macadamia
nut orchard uses. As a result, the Planning Director recommended to
the Council that the area be redesignated from Conservation to
Orchards (Item #2). As the Orchards designation rather than
Extensive Agriculture was more appropriate to the proposed orchard
type of uses.
Based on the foregoing, the amendment for the area has been
already included on the LUPAG Map as Orchards.
SOUTH HILO AND NORTH HILO DISTRICTS
2. HIROSE NURSERY: Change from Low Density Urban to Medium Density
Urban
The area is located on the southeastern corner of Kahaopea
Street and Kanoelehua Avenue in Waiakea Homestead House Lots, South
Hilo. The area both east of and west of Kanoelehua Avenue and on
the Keaau side of Kahaopea Street is presently designated Low
Density Urban.
ATTACf~Q7ENT $12
The Planning Director had recommended to the Council that the
existing Urban Expansion area to the east, between Railroad Avenue
and Kanoelehua Avenue, be converted from Urban Expansion to Low
Density Urban (Item #10). This change is an alternative to increase
the Low Density Urban area in Hilo in order to provide for
residential expansion, diversity of residential environments and
housing mix.
In this area, the existing Medium Density Urban designation is
located northwest of the subject area and bounded by Kanoelehua
Avenue-Kahaopea Street and Kilauea Avenue. Commercial activities
have already been developed within this area. A few nodes of Medium
Density Urban designation also exist on Kinoole Street which'
encompasses existing commercial activities.
The requested Medium Density Urban designation was not included
in the Planning Director's recommendations because it would be
contrary to the land use direction being pursued in the subject
area. Further, it is recommended that commercial development should
be concentrated within the existing Medium Density Urban
designations rather than to extend or string them out beyond
Kanoelehua Avenue and Kahaopea Street.
3. SUISAN, LTD.: Change from Low Density Urban to High Density
Urban Development
The area requested is situated on the southeastern corner of the
Puainako Street/Kanoelehua Avenue intersection. Directly to the
north of the subject area is the Prince Kuhio Shopping Plaza and to
the south and east ace residential uses and the Hawaiian Home Lands
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residential lots. Situated across or west of Kanoelehua Avenue and
the subject area is the KTA Shopping Complex.
The suggested change from Low Density Urban to High Density
Urban was submitted before the Planning Commission. Subsequently,
the Planning Commission recommended to the Council that this change
be included on the LUPAG [4ap.
The Planning Director had recommended to the Council that the
existing Urban Expansion area to the east, between Railroad Avenue
and Kanoelehua Avenue be converted from Urban Expansion to Low
Density Urban (Item #10). This change is an alternative to increase
the Low Density Urban area in Hilo in order to provide for
residential expansion, diversity of residential environments and
housing mix.
The Planning Director had also recommended that the suggested
Industrial designated lands, surrounding the Prince Kuhio Plaza be
converted to High Density Urban (Item #11). Other areas being
converted to High Density .Urban designation which were forwarded to
the Council include the redesignation of the area bounded by Kinoole
Street, Lanikaula Street, Mililani Street and Mohouli Street from
Medium Density Urban to High Density Urban (Item #15) and the area
between Kekuanaoa Street, Mililani Street and waiakea Pond from
Resort to High Density Urban (Item #14). These additional High
Density Urban designation areas have reasonably level topography,
adequate access and would more fully develop the range of services
and activities that can be provided in Hilo.
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The Planning Director did not include the requested area as
there are sufficient High Density Urban areas in Hilo which have
already been included on the LUPAG Map. Further, the existing
trees/openspace area would provide a buffer between the commercial
and the residential areas.
4. JACK UJIMORI AND TOSHIAKI SIIIODA: Change from Urban to
Industrial
The area is located at the northeast corner of Mililani and
Piilani Streets between Hoolul:: Park and Wailoa State Recreation
Area in Waiakea House Lots, South Hilo.
Originally, the area was suggested for a change from Open to
Medium Density Urban in order t~ establish commercial activities.
Because this requested change would be compatible with the
surrounding zoning and land uses,'trt'e Planning Director had
recommended to the Council that the area be redesignated from Resort
and Open to Medium Density Urban (Item X13).
The Planning Director had also recommended that the area along
Manono Street be redesignated to Medium Density Urban (Item X13).
While the subject area does include some ongoing non-conforming
industrial uses, the Industrial designation for the area would be
inappropriate due to the scenic and recreational resources of the
Wailoa State Recreation Area as well as the mix of residential and
commercial uses of the surrounding area.
Based on the foregoing, the amendment for the area has been
already accommodated on the LUPAG Map as Medium Density Urban rather
than the requested Industrial designation.
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somehow in an amendment passed in 1982, in
Ordinance 761, (see ATTACHMENT "C"), you find that
this ordinance does not reflect the authority given
to this Council on initiating amendments to the
General Plan. It can do so only with reference, to
the interim amendments and not with reference to the
comprehensive review and in the language of
Ordinance 761, there is no authority given to the
Council other than to make suggestions by resolution.
So, the Corporation Counsel's Office must interpret
the law based only upon what is in front of them, not
on what it should be. As a result, the opinion of
our office is that this Council may either approve
the entire bill in total and pass it on so that in
due time, interim amendments can be made by this
Council or recommended by this Council. Or this
Ordinance 761 be amended in due course to make it
possible for this body to do something else and I'm
not sure whether that is even possible or not.
MRS. HALE: What was the last sentence you said, I'm
sorry I lost you right there.
MR. MIYAMOTO: In other words, we only act upon what
is in front of us, Ordinance 761, and this ordinance
does not give any authority for this Council to
modify or make modifications upon the recommendations
made by the Commission through the Mayor.
MRS. HALE: So, we can accept the recommendations,---
MR. MIYAMOTO: That's right.
MRS. HALE: Or we can reject the---
MR. MIYAMOTO: Reject it, that's correct.
MRS. HALE: That's what you're saying?
MR. MIYAMOTO: That's correct.
MRS. HALE: Accept or reject the whole General Plan
ordinance, as submitted?
MR. MIYAMOTO: That's right but you can make specific
recommendations for changes by way of resolutions, so
that you go through the whole process again.
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CHR. KOKUBUN: Mr. Kanuha.
MR. KANUHA: First, a point of clarification,
Councilwoman Hale. Are those amendments that you are
referring to related to the LUPAG map or substance
because if it's related to the document, there were a
whole lot more than just, you know, several
amendments.
MRS. HALE: They were the ones that we put down for
specific changes in the LUPAG map. I think there
were about 4 or 5 of them. Well, I think on page 6,
it says not initiated, not initiated, not initiated,
what does that mean? There are 4 not initiated on
that page, these LUPAG map items, what does that mean?
MR. KANUHA: Okay, under the process that we're
working with now, the ability to initiate or not
initiate specific considerations by the Council was
vested with the Planning Director. Okay, i could
either modify a proposed amendment or I could
initiate a new amendment.
In regard to the LUPAG map, there were several land
use changes that were not initiated, you know, for
various reasons, are those the ones you'd like to go
into?
MRS. HALE: I want to know what the reasons were that
you didn't initiate those, yeah.
MR. KANUHA: Okay, there were a number of reasons.
Again, do you want me to go to the specific ones that
were not done?
MRS. HALE: Well, if you can generalize, fine.
MR. KANUHA: Well, I don't think I can generalize
because some of them were already included as part of
the LUPAG map.
MRS. HALE: The references here don't make an
addition, it's just number 7, number 6, so it's kind
of hard to tell from your summary what we're talking
about.
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MR. KANUHA: That's correct. Some of them were not
initiated because of impacts to prime agricultural
lands. And a few were not initiated, particularly
several amendments relating to changes from orchards
or agriculture over to alternate urban expansion
because the whole thrust of the General Plan was
working in a different direction and so it varied.
MRS. HALE: May I ask you another question to follow
up then. Under this new amendment procedure of this
General Plan 402, Draft 4, which I understand,
Mr. Chairman, and I've just been told is this (She
held up a white book) that we're considering and
there is no number on here so that was what had
always confused me. I don't know whether that is the
same as this attached amendments, Bill 402, Draft 4.
Is all of this in here, in this (white book too,
are they the same?
MR. KANUHA: That's correct.
MRS. HALE: Okay, thank you. Then we can consider
this because this shows---. Under this new
procedure, that would not be possible then is that
true?
MR. KANUHA: No, the new procedure provides that
every request by the Council, once they review what
the Planning Commission has recommended, if the
Council has any additional request to add over and
above that and those requests are referred back to
the Planning Director for his consideration, the
Planning Director has to move everything through. In
other words, he has to provide a recommendation as to
why he is recommending denial or why he is modifying
a request by the Council. Or the Planning Director
can say, "yes", I agree with the Council and I will
initiate it and those all move on to the
Planning Commission. The Planning Commission turns
around, gives their consideration and all of those
items come back up to the Council and the Council
takes the final action on them.
MRS. HALE: Then the final question, when it says
here together with its recommendations to the County
Council for their action. At that point when it
comes back to us, after having gone through
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Planning Commission hearings and what not, we can
do what we want to it. We can delete, as long as we
don't add, so that we go back through the process
again, but we could delete or we could deny or we can
affirm. Is that correct?
MR. KANUHA: That's correct.
MRS. HALE: Hut if we did add, it would have to go
back to through the process again?
MR. KANUHA: That's correct.
MRS. HALE: Now, I understand but I'm talking about
what we're passing if this bill passes as it's
written. I just want to be sure we understand it's
meaning before we vote on it this time.
Well, I'd just like to say, Mr. Chairman, I'm really
frustrated as I think most of us are and I'm sure the
people who sat here all afternoon listening to this
must feel as frustrated as we are.
I was hoping that we would have the power to delete
but since we don't have that power and since I think
we do need to clean this up, I'm going to vote for
the General Plan on first reading.
CHR. KOKUHUN: Mr. Yamashiro.
MR. YAMASHIRO: You know, on the existing law on
page 112, provides that the Council may request the
Planning Director to consider any specific
modifications to any proposed amendment or to
initiate within 60 days a new proposed amendment. If
the Planning Director either modifies a proposed
amendment or initiates a proposed amendment, such
proposed amendment shall be reviewed by the
Planning Commission in accordance with subsection E.
I don't find it discretionary, that does not seem to
be discretionary that the Planning Director can pick
and choose from the Council's changes.
MR. KANUHA: There is a---
MR. YAMASHIRO: Or is there another change. I don't
know like she said, you know I'm reading a white
document, there's a green document.
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MISS LAI: I call for the question.
CHR. KOKUBUN: Well, actually, we have a motion to
amend the initial motion. The motion is to amend.
Vote on the amendment: Unanimously carried.
CHR. KOKUBUN: The Chair would entertain a motion then
to approve Bill 145, Draft 2, as amended.
Mr. Domingo moved for the passage of
Bill 145, Draft 2, as amended. Seconded
by Mr. Ruddle and carried by the following
roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmembers Domingo, Hale,
Inouye, Lai, Makuakane, Ruddle,
Schutte, Yamashiro and
Chairman Kokubun - 9.
NOES: None.
CHR. KOKUHUN: Bill 145, Draft 3, is adopted on
second and final reading.
ORDINANCE A Bill for an Ordinance numbered 150, amends
BILL 150: Section 25-114 (City of Hilo Zone Map), Article 3,
(C-876) Chapter 25 (Zoning Code) of the Hawaii County Code,
by changing the district classification of 21,780 sq.
ft. from Single Family Residential (RS-15) to Single
Family Residential (RS-10) at Waiakea, South Hilo,
covered by TMK: 2-4-09:23, Michael Seto, applicant,
introduced by Mr. Domingo on October 18, 1989, was
presented for second and final reading.
Mr. Domingo moved to defer Bill 150 at the
Council level until the next Council
meeting, as requested by the applicant.
Seconded by Mr. Ruddle and unanimously
carried.
ORDINANCE A Bill for an Ordinance numbered 402, Draft 5, adopts
BILL 902: the County of Hawaii General Plan and repeals
(DRAFT 5) Ordinance 439, a5 amended, introduced by Mr. Domingo
on October 4, 1989, was presented for second and final
reading;
and
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COMM. 976: From David & Mary Beth Kahn, The Ritz-Carlton Mauna
Lani, dated October 3, 1989;
and
COMM. 977: From Mr. and Mrs. D. L. MacArthur, dated
October 3, 1989;
and
COMM. 986: From Jerry & Lorraine Gagnon, dated October 2, 1989;
and
COMM. 987: From Thomas S. Byrnes, dated October 4, 1989;
and
COMM. 1021: From Paul A. Lerew, dated October 24, 1989.
Mr. Domingo moved for the passage of
Bill 402, Draft 5, and to close the files
of Communications 976, 977, 986, 987 and
1021. Seconded by Mr. Schutte.
CHR. KOKUBUN: It's been moved and seconded that we
approve Bill 402, Draft 5, and close the files on
Communications 976, 977, 986, 987, and 1021. If
there's no further discussion---. Mrs. Hale.
MRS. HALE: I had written to the Corporation Counsel
and asked to get clarification. This whole process of
the General Plan amendment is so complicated that---.
I have before me Draft 4. I don't even have Draft 5,
I don't even know where it is. But I wanted to get
answers to some of my concerns because although I
spent several hours and hours and hours trying to go
over this and trying to reconcile Draft 1 with Draft 2
with Draft 3, with amendments and whatnot, I found it
very very difficult to understand what it was we were
finally passing.
And Draft 5 is something that's coming before us today
for the first time.
CHR. KOKUBUN: Mrs. Hale, can I clarify that very
quickly?
MRS. HALE: Yeah.
CHR. KOKUBUN: Draft 5 is actually those
recommendations that came up from the Planning
Director, as found on our green sheets that were
submitted to us.
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MRS. HALE: I see, so they're attached to Draft 9.
CHR. KOKUBUN: That's correct.
MRS. HALE: Yeah, so that was what is difficult.
Okay, you have Draft 4 with all these attached
proposed amendments, which make it Draft 5. Hut what
I'm saying, Mr. Chairman, I have some questions, and
I'd like to ask the Corporation Counsel, please, to---.
I had asked him to get me a written opinion of this so
that I could present to all my colleagues, but he was
not able to do it in time for this meeting. But he
has told me that he is prepared to answer my questions.
(At this time, Corporation Counsel Miyamoto
came forward to address the Chair.)
What I want to know, number one, does the amended
wording give the Council the power to change
recommendations of the Planning Director and/or the
Planning Commission?
CHR. KOKUHUN: Mr. Miyamoto.
MR. MIYAMOTO: It would not, at the moment, because we
are still using the present---
MRS. HALE: Under the new Draft 5?
MR. MIYAMOTO: I haven't seen the new Draft 5.
MRS. HALE: I thought you were going to be able to
answer these questions. I wanted to know, number one,
Draft 5, does it have the two/thirds vote in it?
CHR. KOKUBUN: That's correct.
MRS. HALE: That, according to my colleague,
Mr. Yamashiro, is against the County Charter and I
agree with him. Therefore, we have to amend Draft 5,
first of all, so that we can at least be in conformity
with our County Charter. It's my understanding the
Corporation Counsel has said that because it is in
conflict, we can amend that. Is that correct?
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MR. MIYAMOTO: Yes, you could.
MRS. HALE: Then I'd like to say that the first thing
we should do is to start out by amending Draft 5 by
deleting the two-thirds vote, and I've asked the
Corporation Counsel to give us the proper wording to
do that.
CHR. KOKUHUN: If I can comment on that, Mr. Miyamoto,
very quickly. By modifying, amending Draft 5, it will
trigger the whole process, at this point in time, of
going back to the Director and back to the Planning
Commission before the bill is finally adopted. Is
that correct?
MR. MIYAMOTO: There is that possibility, yes.
CHR. KOKUBUN: There is that possibility. Well---
MRS. HALE: I thought you said that we could amend the
two-thirds vote without triggering the process of
going back. That's what I'm trying to find out. I
don't want to trigger this process again.
MR. MIYAMOTO: I would recommend---
MRS. HALE: But I was under the impression that since
this two-thirds vote is not allowable under our County
Charter that we could---this was a procedural matter.
That's what you told Mr. Yamashiro last time.
MR. MIYAMOTO: I will suggest that all amendments to
the amendments procedure be taken up in one amended
ordinance so that we can take it as a whole. There
are quite a number of amendments that need to be made
on the procedure. We are working on it now with the
Planning Department, and there's a need to work with
individual Councilmembers so that the procedure is
less complex than what it is now.
MRS. HALE: Yeah, I see. Okay, well, Mr. Chairman,
I'd just like to say then that I'm not really happy
with our General Plan as we have it. I don't think we
need a great deal of improvements in some areas, but
I'm going to vote for it because what we're working
with now is a 1971 General Plan as amended over the
last 20 years, which is ridiculous, and nobody knows
what we really have.
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At least now, we should have a document that we can
begin to amend, and I would like to warn my colleagues
that I shall immediately begin the amendment process
as soon as the Mayor has signed this document. Thank
you.
CHR. KOKUBUN: So warned. Thank you, Mr. Miyamoto.
The motion then is to adopt Bill 402, Draft 5. The
understanding that we received at the last Council
meeting was that the Council will be able to initiate
amendments. The Planning Director will be able to
initiate amendments to the bill.
MR. YAMASHIRO: After adoption.
CHR. KOKUBUN: That's correct. Mr. Domingo.
MR. DOMINGO: Mr. Chairman, by virtue of the fact that
we've had a number of opinions from our Corp Counsel
with regards to what we can and we cannot do with the
document that's before us, I'd just like to mention
that there are a number of applications before us, to
which I felt when we as individuals had submitted to
the Council for insertion into the document and for
the Administration to consider and for the Planning
Commission to review and make recommendations, now,
those--I speak for myself as an individual--those were
inserted with the knowledge that after it's traveled
through the process and, ultimately, before the
Council at this time that we would have had the
opportunity to really digest that and get some real
reaction to it, and even if we needed to delete that
out of the document.
There's a number of applications; and I'd just like to
mention that we don't have that opportunity now and
that my personal feeling is that when we take that up
for consideration on the zoning application that I
will thoroughly scrutinize those applications. Even
if I feel that I need to make any changes, I will
pursue it, and it's because we don't have that
opportunity to do so at this point.
CHR. KOKUBUN: Thank you. If there is no further
discussion, the motion before the body is to approve
Bill 402, Draft 5, on second and final reading.
Mr. Clerk.
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The roll call vote on Bill 402, Draft 5,
was as follows:
AYES: Councilmembers Domingo, Hale,
Inouye, Lai, Makuakane, Ruddle,
Yamashiro and Chairman Kokubun - 8.
NOES: None.
EXCUSED:
Councilmember Schutte - 1.
CHR. KOKUBUN: Bill 402, Draft 5, is approved and
adopted on second and final reading.
The Council Chairman requests that it is past noon,
and we do have a number of committee reports that we
need to address, and the Chair would call for a lunch
recess until 1:30 p.m. when we will reconvene here to
take up the rest of the agenda.
RECESS: At 12:15 p.m., the Chair declared the meeting to be
in recess until 1:30 p.m.
RECONVENE: The meeting reconvened at 1:50 p.m. by
Chairman Russell S. Kokubun, with all members present.
CHR. KOKUBUN: I apologize for the late start after
our luncheon recess.
REPORTS: The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next
order of business, Reports.
FINANCIAL Monthly Revenue Reports from the Department of
REPORTS: Finance for the month ended September 30, 1989.
Mrs. Inouye moved to receive the Financial
Report. Seconded by Miss Lai and
unanimously carried.
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PLA ERS
February 21, 1990 _
Plarf ing Direc or
General Plan Maps
Please find enclosed the following materials for your
information and files so as to assist you on what changes occurred
an the LUPAG and Facilities mans.
1. Listing of LUPAG map changes, adopted 1989
2. Rationale of " , 1587 and 1989
3. List of Facilities map change, adopted 1989
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Subject: Confirmation of General Plan LUPAG Designation
Matsuno Enterprises, Ltd., TMK: (3) 2-2-40: 14 and 69
The subject properties aze located on the southeastern corner of the
Puainako/Kanoelehua Street intersection. This the only undeveloped corner of this
intersection, with the others being the Prince Kuhio Shopping Center, KTA Shopping
complex, and the Firestone/gas station complex now under construction.
It is the landowner's tmderstanding that said properties fall within the High Density
Urban azea on the General Plan Land Use Pattern Allocation Guide (LUPAG) map. The
basis for this understanding (which is documented in your files) follows:
a. December 26, 1986: A request by the landowner to have fhe Planning
Director consider said properties High Density Urban in conjunction with the
Director's General Plan update program was made.
b January 8, 1987: The Director responded that the request was essentially too
late. As such, a request had to be submitted directly to'either the Planning
Commission and/or the County Council.
c. June 23, 1987: A formal request was then made of the Planning Corrunission.
d. August l9 and 25, 1987: At the Planning Commission's meetings, the
Planning Director interpreted that the subject properties were already within
the High Density Urban azea. As such, no general plan amendment was
necessary. As such, the Commission's package of amendment did not include
the landowner's request.
e. October 2 and 6, 1988: Pursuant to this interpretation a commercial rezoning
application was filed on October 2, 1988. On October 6, the Director rejected
the application noted that a General Plan amendment was needed first.
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Ms. Virginia Goldstein, Director
February 11, 2000
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f. October 26 1988: The Director then writes (see attached) in item number 4
that "should the amendment be adopted as part of the comprehensive review
process by the County Council, this amendment can then be interpreted to
include the subject properties within proposed Amendment No. 11."
g. November 1989:
The Council approves the package ofamendment, including No. 11, on
November 1, 1989, and the approval became effective on November 14.
Based on the sequence of events and the letter of October 26, 1988, the landowner
believes that the subject properties aze designated High Density Urban on the General Plan
LUPAG map. There have been no contrary amendments since the 1989 action. Relying on
this understanding, the applicant has entertained different development proposals of this site
and will be submitting an application to rezone said properties into the General Commercial
(CG) district in the immediate future.
We look forwazd to hearing from you. If you need more information or have
questions on this matter, please feel free to contact me. Thank you very much.
Sirycerely,
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SIDNEY M. FUKE
Planning Consultant
Enclosure
cc Mr. Rex Matsuno w/ enclosure
Mir os Virginia Goldstein
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Stephen K. Yamashiro f , ~Lt%<.
~Ho~'or Russell Kokubun
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PLANNING DEPARTMENT
25 Aupuni Street, Aoom lU9 • Hilu, };awaii 96720-4252
BUR) 961-8288 • Fax (8118) 'J61-8742
February 22, 2000
Mr. Sidney Fuke
Planning Consultant
100 Pauahi Street, Suite 2l2
Hilo, HI 96720
Dear Mr. Fuke:
Coulu-nwtiou of General Pl:w LUPAG Map Designation
High Density Urban
Matsuno Eutcrprises, Ltd.
T'MK: 2-2-d0:ld and G9
This is to confirm that the above-captioned properties are designated High Density Urban
on the General Plan Land Use Pattern Allocation Guide (LUPAG) Map. In reviewing the
Planning Commission's public hearing transcript (August 19, 1987) pertaining to the
Comprehensive General Plan Review, then Planning Director, Mr. Albert Lyman,
confirrned that the properties were included for consideration into;the High Density
Urban classification. therefore, wish the adoption of the proposed amendments to the
General Plan ir. November of 1989, parcels l4 and 69 ofTT?ll<: 2-2-40 were desig:ated
High Density Urban on the LUPAG :vlap.
Should you have any questions, please feel free to contact us again.
Sincerely,
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VIRGf lA GO DSTFIN
Planning Director
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PLANNING DEPARTMENT
Ms. Virginia Goldstein, Director COUNTY OF HP,4'~.~Alt
Planning Department
COUNTY OF HAWAII
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, HI 96720
Subject: General Plan Designation -Southeastern Corner of Puainako Street
and Kanoelehua Avenue Intersection (TMK: 2-2-040: 14 & 69)
Dear Ms. Goldstein:
As you are aware, I was Chair of the Council Planning Committee when the
update of the General Plan was being reviewed by the County Council.
Specifically, this relates to the time between 1986 (when the Planning Department
and Planning Commission were considering the update) through 1989 (when the
County Council finally adopted the update on November 1, 1989). During this
period, I reviewed all proposals very carefully before making any recommendation
to the my Committee. The Committee -which essentially consisted of the majority
of the Council -ultimately made its recommendation to the County Council for final
action.
It has recently been brought to my attention that there is a question relative
to the designation of the subject properties on the General Plan Land Use Pattern
Allocation Guide (LUPAG) map. To assist in your review of this matter, I though it
best to share my understanding of the circumstances surrounding my Committee's
and subsequently the Council's action on this matte~:"~7'tiis is being done only after
reviewing the transcript and all related correspondences on this matter to help
refresh my memory.
When the Planning Commission was considering the subject properties for
High Density Urban in August 1987, the Planning Director and Assistant
Corporation Counsel both conceded that proposed Amendment No. 11 covered the
request. With that understanding, the Planning Commission did not believe that
further separate action on the applicant's request was necessary. This position
and/or understanding was further confirmed in the Planning Director's letter of
October 26, 1988 (enclosed). The letter stated that if proposed Amendment No.
11 were adopted by the Council, the subject properties could be interpreted to be
part of the High Density Urban.
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Ms. Virginia Goldstein
August 22, 2000
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I, too, shared that understanding. As such, when the owner of said
properties made a request of the Council on November 4, 1988 (enclosed) to
consider the properties for High Density Urban, I believed that -while it could make
matters clearer - it was, nonetheless, superfluous. (Please note that the owner's
letter also acknowledged that the Commission's understanding was as described
above and that the current request was designed as a "To be sure" measure. )
With the understanding that proposed Amendment No. 11 covered the
subject properties, I did not believe further action was necessary. However, as it
was the committee's position to have every specific written public request -rather
superfluous or not - be considered by the Planning Director, I included this as part
of the overall review package. Although the Director did not make this part of his
final package of proposals, it was not materially significant to me. It was my
position that it was covered by proposed Amendment No. 11.
In the end, proposed Amendment No. 11 was adopted by the Council.
I trust that you find this information of assistance. Should you have
questions, please feel free to call me at 961-8599. Thank you.
Yours very truly,
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TAKA~I
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P.O. Box 1740
Honokaa,Hl 96727