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2002-2004
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Fred C. Holschuh, M. D., Councilmember
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BIL 049 Draft 03 2002-2004
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COM 0118.000 2002-2004
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Pepdekeo Community Meeting September 16. 2004 <br /> Bill 49, Dr. 3, Agricultural Land Taxation <br /> A question was asked on the repercussions of a property owner in the case of a dedication breach by a <br /> lessee. Mr. Takaba replied that the primary farmer is identified in the dedication and farm plan and he <br /> would be subject to the provisions of the dedication. The dedication pertains to the property, not the <br /> person. Further, it was asked if the owner could continue with the dedication if they lose the primary <br /> farmer. Mr. "i akai and Mr. Takaba stated the dedication would continue, as long as the proper use <br /> continued. <br /> Dr. Holschuh asked what would happen if a farmer was inflicted with an intermittent disability; he could <br /> farm for a length of time, then he couldn't for a length of time, and so-on. Mr. Takai stated they would <br /> have to have a physician's statement, and this would be handled on a case-by-case basis. <br /> Mr. Anderson asked who would be responsible for the dedication on larger parcels with many lessees <br /> <br /> who hold leases of different lengths. He wondered who would apply for the dedication. "1'he farmer- <br /> lessees live on the land, and at the end of the lease, the owner sometimes has difficulty finding a new <br /> lessee. Ile stated the dedication program becomes contusing in this situation. Mr. Takai stated that in <br /> <br /> this situation, the landowner would he ultimately responsible for the dedication, as he is the manager of <br /> the situation on the property. <br /> <br /> A question was asked if the owner could prove the operation was making the required $2,000 per year, <br /> would it matter if a portion of the property goes out of use. Mr. Tulang expressed the importance of <br /> providing for fallow land. He stated to maintain a viable agricultural operation, there must always be a <br /> portion tallow. <br /> At this time, Mr. Johnson stated that the revisions in the bill were good; they have no impact on his <br /> situation, and he had to leave. He suggested that the annual income requirement for a commercial <br /> <br /> operation of $2,000 is too lenient. It takes from the intent to put more land into agriculture. I Ie stated <br /> further that farm dwellings need to be inspected. If the buildings are being rented or leased to the <br /> farmers working on the leased land which they're living on, then the Ag use rate should apply; if they <br /> <br /> are working a neighboring land or elsewhere, they are just renters, and this is not Ag use. Mr. Oshiro <br /> <br /> asked if the Ag use rate would apply if the dwelling is rented to a farm hand, rather than the lessee living <br /> in a dwelling. Mr. 'Takaba stated that providing for renting to farm hands is not a part of the current <br /> proposal, but there has been discussion on the subject. <br /> Mr. Johnson asked if there had ever been discussion on a 5-year Ag dedication. The answer was no. <br /> Mr. Smith expressed concern with page 18 ofthe bill, subsection (f)(1)(B). He felt that the need for the <br /> farmer to "petition" for a change in use is too severe. "fhe disposition of the entire subsection seems <br /> insensitive to farmers. If the farmer wants to change the type of crop on his land, he should be able to <br /> just nobly the Tax Oftice of the change in use, not to ask permission through a petition for change of <br /> use. He feels the language in this subsection should be changed to reflect more cooperation with the <br /> agricultural community. Mr. Takai responded that this subsection pertained to a time when there was a <br /> long list of Ag uses. He feels it is appropriate now to change the language in this subsection. However_ <br /> he stated the 'l'ax C)ttice must know, because some crop changes require a conversion period to be <br /> included in the dedication. He stated some use changes require a 2-year conversion period. <br /> Page 5 <br /> <br />
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