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<br /> Communication 998 , <br /> Bill 318 <br /> <br /> Page 4 of 5 <br /> Ms. Isbell said that if it were a bill that everyone worked on for a long time then it would be fine, however, <br /> she had not seen the bill before yesterday. Ms. Isbell felt this should have been discussed with the Planning <br /> Department first and suggested voting against the referral and the bill, even though she said she made the <br /> motion. She noted the motion was made just to get it on the floor and thinks the Planning Director should <br /> informally look at the bill first. <br /> Council Member Jacobson noted that Mr. Higa's motion was only to refer and not refer and approve, and <br /> asked whether Mr. Higa's motion to refer erased the thrust of the original motion to approve with the <br /> amendment. Ms. Kiriu noted that sometimes there is an override when there's an amendment because the <br /> override is with a different type of action. Ms. Kiriu stated that ut this case the amendment actually changes <br /> or diverts an action, however if it fails to pass by vote on the amendment, then you go back to the main <br /> motion. <br /> Mr. Higa stated he would like to see the bills have it's day in court and go through the process because if the <br /> Planting Director chose not to work on it informally with a council member, the bill may never see the Tight <br /> of day unless we do what we're trying to do right now by referring the matter to the Planning Director and <br /> Planning Commission. This would trigger the 120 plus 60 days and, like it or not the bill comes back before <br /> the council for further action. Mr. Higa stated that the bill needs some work but totally understands this is the <br /> only way Mr. Hoffmann's bill stands a chance of becoming law. At least in 120 days it comes back to the <br /> council to be voted up or down, but on the other hand, if discussions were done informally and did not go <br /> through the process, it may never come before the council for consideration. <br /> Council Member Doc Holschuh stated that basically, the concept and the concurrency ideas aze good and tthat <br /> no question something needs to be done now. Doc Holschuh said he didn't like certain aspects of the bill and <br /> doesn't want to support it because he agrees with Ms. Isbell. However, he does want the bill to go to the <br /> Planning Duector and Planning Commission and would vote only for a referral of the bill, without agreeing or <br /> endorsing its contents. Doc Holschuh confirmed with Ms. Kiriu that by referring the bill it did not mean the <br /> committee was voting yes on the details. Committee Chair Pilago noted that if the amendment to refer occurs <br /> and goes to the Planning Commission, it returns to Council and not Committee. <br /> Ms. Isbell stated she could not vote for this as she feels it should go informally before the Planning <br /> Department and Commission. Council Member Jacobson stated he could not see complying with sunshine <br /> law regulations through an informal process which would also potentially subject members to serial <br /> communications. <br /> Ms. Kiriu then read the full amendment as follows: A motion to recommend to the full council that bi11318 <br /> be referred to the Planning Director and Planning Commission for their recommendation and comments <br /> in accordance with the procedures set forth in Section 25-2-43, Hawaii County Code. The motion to refer <br /> carried. Ms. Kiriu also noted that it was not necessary to vote on the main motion due to the affirmative vote <br /> on the referral, and therefore the main motion is gone. <br /> PC REPORT N0. 106 <br /> <br />
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