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subject, and simply to try to get both alternatives to the Council at the same time, rather than <br /> have one go up to the Council after this meeting and the other go up after the next meeting. <br /> That's the only reason. <br /> GRAHAM: Thank you, Mr. Yuen. We have a lot of people here today. I'd kind of <br /> like to get as much public testimony today as we can before we break for lunch since you all <br /> have been very patient; and then maybe we can address the formality of what we vote or don't <br /> vote on after the lunch. For your information, I have some work I need to do in Hilo today so I <br /> will not be chairing the meeting in the afternoon but Commissioner Alameda will; and I'm sure <br /> he can deal with that issue at the time. So if it's okay with the Commissioners, I'd like to move <br /> to the public testimony now. <br /> IWASHITA: Mr. Chair? <br /> GRAHAM: Yes, Commissioner Iwashita. <br /> IWASHITA: As a matter of record though I think we should proceed on both matters <br /> separately as far as taking the testimony because they will be voted on sepazately. So I don't <br /> think we should confuse the record or I have a concern that maybe it's not a, you know, <br /> significant one. But I feel like, you know, if we mix it up, the record, then it's going to be mixed <br /> up. <br /> GRAHAM: If I might ask, in that case if there's someone here in the audience or many <br /> <br /> people who have thoughts about both of these do you feel we need to call them up in two <br /> separate instances or could they just speak to the general topic and indicate which of the two they <br /> are referring to as they refer? Would that be all right with you? <br /> IWASHITA: Sure. <br /> GRAHAM: Okay, thanks. So let's go what way. If you would then, I have a list of <br /> people here now. I have nine people signed up to give public testimony. And there maybe more <br /> of you who would like to; and if you want to please go over and register with Shazon. And I'll <br /> call the first three public testifiers up right now. We have three chairs up there. I have Paul <br /> Campbell, Melvin Yasutake and Donna Leong. Could the three of you come forward at this <br /> <br /> time. Thank you. Could you each raise your right hand so I can swear you in please. Do you <br /> swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter today? <br /> <br /> TESTIFIERS: I do. <br /> <br /> GRAHAM: Thank you. Since we do have a number of testifiers, we may or may not <br /> <br /> get through by lunch break; but I would appreciate it if you would hold your testimony to like <br /> <br /> three minutes or something and just be concise on what you think you'd bring to the table on <br /> <br /> this. Maybe I'll start with Paul Campbell; and could you just, as you begin your testimony, give <br /> <br /> your name and address so it's on our record and then speak into the microphone. <br /> <br /> CAMPBELL: I am Paul Campbell. I live at 13-1342 Malama in Leilani Estates. I am <br /> <br /> the current chair of the Sierra Club, Moku Loa group, representing about 950 people. We stand <br /> <br /> with our Hawaiian brothers and sisters in groups Hoomalu Hawaii and Aupuni O Hawaii. We <br /> 4 <br /> <br />