REP PWIRC 035 09/18/2007 2006-2008

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Public Works Director Bruce McClure and Brian Kajikawa, Division Chief of the Building Department appeazed before the Committee. Director McClure is in support of this bill and will implement what ever is necessary to bring it to fruition. Division Chief Brian Kajikawa addressed several of his concerns on indigenous architecture to the Committee, including: • What will these hales be used for living or community use; • Residential or community use will need an expensive sprinkler system and whether the homeowners will be able to afford such an expensive ticket item; • Depletion of the natural resources such as the over harvesting of ohia trees and native forest; • There should be requirements that these builders be certified in indigenous architecture and Maui is the only island which offers these classes, also that building of these structures be done to meet the hurricane code and by certified builders; • After discussion with his counterparts on Kauai and Oahu, he is not aware of an enactment of any bill similar to this; • Polling of the residents if they want this or not; and • Several such buildings grouped together increases hazards and safety concerns for the public. Council Member Emily Naeole addressed that ohia forest is being bulldozed and cleared for developments. Use of the forest resource could offer jobs for this purpose. Learning indigenous architecture should not be a problem. She acknowledged Brian Kajikawa's opposition to Bill 173 before its referral to this Committee. That is why this is before the Council to be decided on. Council Member Bob Jacobson believes that Brian Kajikawa's concern of over harvesting of the ohia is misplaced. He was able to preserve the ohia on 5 '/2 of his 6 acres to build his home. Council Member Stacy Higa addressed Brian Kajikawa about his concerns. He asked if the Building Division is willing to work with helping the builders, and if it will be cumbersome process to do this. As he heard, Senator English shared that most indigenous azchitecture is built in the rural areas. As to the expensive sprinkler system to be installed in this $3,000 hale, he will do some research and inquiries on his own. Council Member Angel Pilago addressed working more cooperatively together with the Administration in this effort. He was taken aback by what was said on indigenous architecture, why does Hawaiians have to insure and be held to reach higher standards. Installation of a sprinkler system does not stop the building from burning down, or hurricane proofing, or its roof from being blown off. It is yet to be proven that any of these approved structures are fully protected from fire or hurricane damages. He found the statements made to be disrespectful. Treat this equally and nothing less. Brian Kajikawa stated that he responds to the life and safety of the public. He feels that it is their job and responsibility to carry out. Any neglect in such building is his concern.