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LIM: No, we don't. We are doing, all we are doing is we are following the dictates of the Department of Public Works and the Kona CDP to stub out to the south. HOUSEL: Okay. Have you spoken with the adjacent landowner? LIM: I've spoken to him a long time ago, and I don't know what his current plans are. HOUSEL: I see, okay. Now, one of the things you stated in your application was that you felt this land qualified to be infill per the Kona CDP. Could you explain that, please? LIM: That's correct. The Kona CDP was essentially, I think, at least in my opinion, was set up to identify areas within Kona that would be proposed for a development, more so that the outside areas, and the infill was areas of land development in the general boundaries of existing urban and suburban areas. And we feel that it complies with the Kona CDP in that we've got existing urban and suburban areas immediately surrounding it. I think you saw from the General Plan LUPAG Map where the Urban Expansion Area was, that entire area should be going out to residential; there is a plan to do that in the General Plan anyway. HOUSEL: It seems like to me the definition as stated in the Kona CDP is infill is intended for land that has been previously developed or is surrounded by existing developments, is that correct? LIM: No, I think that's an incorrect statement, and I think you are getting that from one of the glossary terms in the back of the design guidelines. And you should know that that was imported into the Kona CDP, wholesale from the Smart Code without any kind of calibration here. It's inconsistent with the other definitions within the Kona CDP itself. HOUSEL: Okay, thank you. Any other questions? Commissioner Giffin. GIFFIN: I don't know if this question is better asked of Ki, but just looking at the existing roadways, looking at the proposed 45 lots of the subject property, the greatest impact of this traffic that would be resulting from the 45 lots would be where? I mean I am not ma`a to Kona and I am not kama`aina to that, so I just want to know, maybe from the applicant's representative or from Ki, the greatest impact. LIM: The two main entrances for the project are, you can see where the makai boundary of the parcel is -. BOWMAN: You get the -. Can you use the -? GIFFIN: Jeff has it. LIM: Okay. Off of the project concept, the one connection would be south to Pualena whenever that gets opened up; the other connection would be makai and right there on the makai portion of the project, you see this road tailing off, that will be developed, as the Planning Director was talking, into that Hualalai Road connector right at the one straight way where there's adequate sight distance. There will also be another roadway coming from the Hualalai Road section back through the makai project, which is Parcel 42, out to Paulehia Street when that gets finally dedicated in the 10