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GIFFIN: And what is the timetable in relationship to the subject property? <br /> LIM: For that particular project, we have a Planned Unit Development application in also and we <br /> have to get that approved, then after that I think we will go with the subdivision application notice — <br /> I estimate a year and half to two years for the issuance of final subdivision approval. <br /> HOUSEL: Any more? Okay. Mr. Lim, I had one other question. As you are aware, the Kona <br /> Community Development Plan has set a preference, as this is not in a TOD but it's and what would <br /> be called the TND, and the conventional rezoning that you are requesting is an alternative to the <br /> TND. Did you consider a TND? <br /> LIM: We discussed it briefly with the Director, but we felt that because we didn't have the <br /> minimum size that it's very difficult to plan these TND's or TOD's. A lot of the TND and TOD <br /> concepts, at least as I understand them, are intended to be these complex concentrated urban <br /> developments that they will have some urban core where you've got commercial retail, you get, you <br /> know, the more residential out further and less dense residential and some greenbelt on the outside. <br /> And you really can't do that unless you've got a large project, like, the County heads the plan that <br /> you guys had had review, the Honokohau Village TOD, something like that where you've got, you <br /> know, a significant amount of acreage and it's located along one of the transit lines that are planned, <br /> because that was the whole intent, at least as I understand, of the TND. And the TOD was this <br /> Transit - Oriented Development where you would have the buses or maybe rail or whatever else in <br /> the future, and you plan these big urban projects. And this is just not appropriate for that. <br /> HOUSEL: Now, you know, and I'm referring to the letter from the Land Use Commission <br /> regarding these four parcels, which are apparently individually owned but have a lot of thing in <br /> common, that could potentially be considered a TND; there is a large enough, there is 60 acres in <br /> that total area there that you've, you know, you obviously with connecting roads to adjacent <br /> properties, you're doing some cooperative efforts, that maybe you would consider working with the <br /> other owners to develop a TND per the Kona CDP. <br /> LIM: That's, one of the issues that the smaller developers like this one have is you really don't <br /> have the ability to work with some of the other developers because we don't know what their timing <br /> is, and there is obviously the infrastructure cost issues. So, as - (interrupted by a comment from the <br /> public). <br /> HOUSEL: Please continue. Sorry. <br /> LIM: So I guess, in short, no, we feel like the project was a small project and we could not do that <br /> with the other developers. We didn't even know they were going to be coming up at the same time <br /> as we were. <br /> HOUSEL: Well, I participated in the Kona CDP, and I think the general intent was to do planned <br /> development for our community, and that everyone, all landowners and everyone was encouraged <br /> to, you know, cooperate together to do mass planning and instead of piece -meal planning. So I <br /> would certainly encourage everyone to try to cooperate together and maybe coordinate their <br /> schedules, I realize that it's not practical for everyone to do that but, do the best they could to try to <br /> meet the intention of the Kona CDP. <br /> 12 <br />