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HOUSEL: Yeah, could you go back to the LUPAG Map? Now, that seems like to me that the <br /> green is defined as Important Agricultural, is that correct? <br /> DARROW: Correct. <br /> HOUSEL: And that basically divides this property? <br /> DARROW: The General Plan LUPAG designation is meant to be broad brush, so it's not site <br /> specific as this map is. But for reference purposes, so that the planners can have a general idea or <br /> more specific idea where these are, it has been brought onto a specific location on the map. The <br /> General Plan does have a broad brush indication, so it can be moved, I mean it can be expanded as <br /> far as the line. In response to the applicant's request as to whether or not this particular parcel is <br /> Urban Expansion or Important Ag Lands, the Planning Director has determined that this property is <br /> Urban Expansion Area. <br /> HOUSEL: Okay. Could you go back to the County, the one with pink on it? It must be the State, <br /> okay, yeah, so this currently is in Agriculture but the master plan contends this ultimately to be <br /> Urban, is that correct? <br /> DARROW: That's the intention that this would be, its long -range plan for this particular area is <br /> that it would include the Urban Expansion Area, as well as within the Community Development <br /> Plan, it shows it as within the Kona Urban Area. <br /> LEITHEAD TODD: Jeff, can you go back to the map with the State Land Use? I'd like to explain. <br /> When I got asked to interpret where the line is, part of the problem is is that when we draw these <br /> original maps that are fairly small and then we try to do it with an overlay on a GIS later on, and it <br /> hasn't translated very well on parcel specific. So when I was looking at this, what I looked at is the <br /> fact that you have Hienaloli Road, and that if you look at that, that seems to be where that kind of <br /> boundary is in terms of other applications that -. <br /> BOWMAN: Could you show the road please? <br /> GIFFIN: Jeff, yeah, can you show us where that road is? <br /> LEITHEAD TODD: This road up there. <br /> GIFFIN: Oh okay. <br /> LEITHEAD TODD: And you see that the other Urban classifications that have been done in the <br /> past have basically gone up to around that line as the demarcation. So I thought that that was a <br /> more consistent interpretation of what the intent was of our maps. And also because it, in terms of <br /> trying to decide if a particular parcel is one or the other, we tend to want to try and fit them into one <br /> classification rather than having it cut in half, and it made sense that you have that road at the top, <br /> that that would become the demarcation — a clear line between Agriculture mauka and then more <br /> urban uses makai. <br /> PUBLIC: Can I ask a question? <br /> DARROW: Not at this time, sir. <br /> 4 <br />