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ONO: Well, let me clarify while I'm looking at, or pursue what I'm looking at. Most units, couples,have two <br /> cars. So here you're reducing from 1,000 to 500 and you're only looking at one parking. I don't think that's <br /> realistic if, you know -. <br /> ARAI: Well,right now the way the Code stands is that you could put a residential unit in Downtown Hilo with <br /> no parking. So if-. <br /> ONO: Yeah,but if we're making recommendations -? <br /> ARAI: Right -. <br /> ONO: Don't you-? <br /> ARAI: Well,I think that's why there are series of compromises in any bill. You try to strike a balance. In this <br /> particular case,because of the way the bill is constructed-. You'll notice the recommendation is without <br /> prejudice. It's because the Planning Director has not, sort of,vetted this whole thing through. When the new <br /> bill gets submitted,we're going to distribute it to the affected agencies,we're also going to ask the Downtown <br /> Hilo Association to comment on it and get their input,at which point the Director will offer its recommendation. <br /> KERN: Madam Director? <br /> LEITHEAD TODD: Yeah. I wanted to say that amongst the various CDPs and some of the community <br /> development efforts is the idea that you live, work,play especially in areas of higher density. So if you look at <br /> the Kona CDP,the idea is that you try to get people out of their cars. Downtown Hilo currently does not have a <br /> parking requirement for any of those buildings. It's all on-street parking. There is one or two that have a few, <br /> you know, parking stalls off And the vision of some of the people who are involved with Downtown Hilo is <br /> that if you've got commercial, residential, shopping opportunities,coupled with bus service so you have a bus <br /> stop in the area where you can go,that it lessens the need to have cars. Now that's a long-range vision. There <br /> are people who live in Downtown Hilo who don't have cars; and they can go to KTA,they can go to Sack N <br /> Save. If they want to go some place,they'll take a cab, go to Mooheau get a bus ride. This proposed bill, you <br /> know,we're still waiting for the next one, actually is imposing a parking requirement where there's currently no <br /> parking requirement Downtown. And it was based to some extent looking at other urban areas like San <br /> Francisco, what was the requirement on the number of stalls. It may not reflect the way we currently live in our <br /> homes. You know,hey, I've got two cars my house,right? One time we had four. And so I think a lot of the <br /> bills that you see,both in Kona as well as in Hilo which are more urban,is this kind of vision that they're trying <br /> to increase mass transit and decrease the use of vehicles. Whether that actually plays out or not,I don't know. <br /> But that's sort of the vision of where some people are going with the designs--both for the, some,when we <br /> did--on the Kona side we did the Kamakana Villages,the affordable housing project. And the people in <br /> Downtown Hilo,they actually want to attract a residential component. Whether this is the bill or not,we don't <br /> know. But there is that goal of trying to revitalize Downtown Hilo by having a residential component so that <br /> people are there more than just 8 to 4 or 8 to 5. <br /> KERN: Thank you,Madam Director. Commissioner Au? <br /> AU: You know, I'm surprised that the Hilo Downtown Association didn't respond. I know you said you're <br /> going to give them a chance to respond later, but I'm surprised that they didn't come and -. Or do you know <br /> where they stand on this? <br /> ARAI: The bill was never transmitted to them. And,because as soon as the bill came in,we saw that there <br /> were issues regarding the way the bill was constructed. So we didn't bother to send it to them. We were <br /> 3 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br />