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potential there, if somebody needs, has the desire to do it. So overall, I think it takes a challenge
<br /> parcel and makes it a bit less challenging. And I was talking to another rancher, he said that, you
<br /> know, even just fencing parcels like this, one that really long and narrow, it's really challenging
<br /> when you take a lineal foot of fencing versus more rectangular square parcels actually a lot less
<br /> in there. So that gentleman actually agreed with this structure as well.
<br /> So I can,just a couple of things, I'm happy to answer any questions from you folks, I'm happy to
<br /> get into the conditions, as well as address some of the testimony that has come in so far.
<br /> UNGER: Yeah,why don't you go ahead and talk about the conditions and the testimony that's
<br /> come in, and answer questions afterwards—unless, Commissioners, if you want to interject,
<br /> that's fine.
<br /> KERN: Sure. First off I think we'll get into the conversation about additional farm dwelling on
<br /> there. We are kind of, I think it's the same thing,it is'a pretty standard condition even on
<br /> residential rezonings that are, which will allow an `ohana,they take that density away. The
<br /> challenge is, well, this property may not be inanextensive agricultural use`right now; it could
<br /> be, and that's the concept to keeping it five acres. And it's challenge because`it limits the ability
<br /> to have an additional farm dwelling on there, if there goes into,,you know, agriculture. In order
<br /> to get an additional farm dwelling application, agreement, it's not just granted; you actually have
<br /> to go through a farm plan and show a farm plan and show,you know,how many hours of
<br /> working was proposed,what you are growing arid what kind of crops you are doing, and then
<br /> that's reviewed by the Planning Department and either approved or denied. So allowing that to
<br /> be there doesn't automatically happen, but it still gives that option. I;think that, I think it's worth
<br /> considering especially when it's still five acres in size,which does allow for agriculture. So our
<br /> request would be to allow the additional farm dwellings to remain. That would be the first one.
<br /> The second one would be the access point, limiting the access to a single access point off of
<br /> there. When I talked-to Robyn at the Department of Public Works, she said that, you know,
<br /> that's pretty much their standard condition. And so I looked into the Change of Zone that
<br /> occurred just to the Honoka`a side of itthat was done in 2011, and that was a Change of Zone to
<br /> A-5a as well,and I said, well, you know, that one had a condition that said that the connection to
<br /> the Mamalahoa Highway shall conform to Chapter 22, no more than one lot will be permitted to
<br /> have access taking`—excuse me—have driveway taking direct access from Mamalahoa Highway
<br /> and all the other lots will be provided access via the subdivision road,which essentially created
<br /> two access points there. There was a lot that divided the road and the subdivision road. The
<br /> challenge with this one is there is'already an existing driveway there, the house is there, there is
<br /> pavement on it, and the applicant would like the ability to leave that there and still, and then have
<br /> the other access point coming up the flag as we are showing on this slide that has kind of that
<br /> extension down there to get the access out of there. So that's the other condition that we would
<br /> like to see the two. So what happened was is that the original, the one in 2011, the same type of
<br /> letter and condition came in from the Department of Public Works saying only one access point,
<br /> and then that was changed obviously by Commission, Council, at the end of the day it was the
<br /> Council that changed that. So it is possible to do that. I think it would be, as a potential middle
<br /> ground, to say that as long as that dwelling exists. If that dwelling would be taken down, then,
<br /> you know,maybe eliminate that, the additional access point. But right now there is already an
<br /> existing access to the dwelling on the far side, and in order to come in on the other side, they
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