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then it may be a moot point because if Public Works says no,we are not going to allow two accesses, even taking that other mention out of the Condition D about a single access may be moot. We did request a representative from Public Works to be here this morning. Unfortunately, she's not in today, so. UNGER: Great, thanks. KAY: Thank you. UNGER: Commissioner Can Smith. CARR SMITH: Christian, I was curious. Do you know for fact'whether this was suggested based upon the existing Mamalahoa Highway? It's in the process of being widened right now. Is this after widening or— KAY: So, yeah, thank you for the question. If you see this area here, it says "15' FRW"; that's a 15-foot future road widening setback requirement. And that, I believe, is Condition F. CARR SMITH: Is that based on the way that the expansion is going to be completed or prior to? KAY: So this, the way this comes out now is it's 80 feet from the existing property line to the future road widening setback, 95 feet, from the existing property line to the existing frontage along the highway. That's not answering your question. CARR SMITH: Is the future road widening what is occurring right now? KAY: I am not aware of the project going on right now. The 15-foot road widening, future road widening setback, my understanding based on the conversation I had, would be kind of something into the future and not maybe what's going on right now. Because sometimes we get comments from them and they say'that it shall be subdivided and dedicated right away; in this case they said, "Upon the request of the Department of Public Works, the applicant, its successors or assigns shall dedicated the land encumbered by the future road widening setback to the County of Hawai`i ...." My conversation with Robyn, she indicated that the County would actually pay for the subdivision itself, it's just that the applicant would be required to dedicate the land once it was subdivided out. So that indicates to me that is possibly further into the future than what's actually going on right now. CARR SMITH: Thank you. KAY: Yeah. UNGER: Commissioner Vitousek. VITOUSEK: Sure, basically in following up with the gentleman's point about the flag lot and creating possible runoff. Has there been any kind of like engineering study to figure out what that grading is going to do to the runoff? Because by creating the flag lot, we are saying that this area is going to be graded in order to create access; so we are basically all but requiring that this 18 DRAFT