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ROHR: Well, they're always threatening to sue, and I couldn't understand how they were able
<br />to apply—
<br />CLARKSON: I suggest you ask their attorneys about that issue. It's not up it doesn't have
<br />anything to do with us, Ms. Rohr. Are there any other questions from the Commission?
<br />AGUINALDO: No.
<br />CLARKSON: Thank you both. At this time, our last testifier, unless there are other people who
<br />have signed up is Geoff Shaw.
<br />MAHI-HANAI (from audience): You called my name, but all four chairs were filled, so
<br />CLARKSON: Oh, okay. Please come up. You've testified before, so you're sworn please
<br />raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter before the Planning
<br />Commission today?
<br />SHAW: I do.
<br />CLARKSON: Whichever one of you would like to proceed. Please introduce yourself, and
<br />proceed with your testimony.
<br />SHAW: My name is Geoff Shaw and, well, this is speculation on my part. And, it seems like
<br />they're very persistent, this entity, the Piilani Partners, and I'm going to speculate on why they're
<br />so persistent. They can see the writing on the wall, and if you remember back, you know,
<br />decades ago, bottled water was basically Perrier and Avian, and there wasn't all these other
<br />brands, you know, and it was from a pretty exclusive source, and you pay a lot of money for it,
<br />and it was kind of a, you know, a vanity thing, you know. If you were drinking that Perrier
<br />water, you were some fancy dude, you know. The regular people couldn't afford that stuff
<br />And, so, what's happening with the, with the bottling industry is that, you know, there's a lot of
<br />opposition to it, and I see you guys have, you know, water cups and stuff now, instead of using
<br />your bottled water. When I came to these meetings before, everybody would have a bottle of
<br />water in front of them, and now people are changing, you know. And, they're smart, you know.
<br />They can see the writing on the wall. You gotta get something exclusive, you know. So, they
<br />want to tap into that Mauna Kea water source. And, this is all speculation. I'm not on their
<br />board, you know, in their board meetings, whatever, but I think it's an educated speculation, and
<br />so, you know, when it gets back to, when, you know, years down the line when this is on, all
<br />happening, you know, you'll be looking back on this and saying, wow, you know, we were a part
<br />of that, you know. And, now you have a chance to, you know, at least, at least slow the, slow the
<br />ball down, you know. I mean, if these guys are persistent, they'll just keep going, and I also
<br />want to go back to when I was here before, I was discussing the, the—okay, I was discussing the,
<br />the attempt to do a study of the effects of, of PGV on the Hawaiian community, you know, and
<br />that study never happened. Even though you guys voted for it, you know, the few people that are
<br />still here, you voted for it, it never happened. And, if that study would have happened, you
<br />know, we would know how much stuff like this affects the Hawaiian community, you know. It's
<br />not just a subtle effect. It's a, you know, I mean, having these things happen to you over and
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