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ENOCENCIO: Yes, sir.
<br />REPLOGLE: Okay.
<br />ENOCENCIO: You know, the thing about it is, is that if you go to Clem Akina Park right now,
<br />you'll see `uala being planted, sweet potato.
<br />REPLOGLE: Yeah.
<br />ENOCENCIO: You'll see where it slopes down and things like that. Now the `uala is pretty
<br />good, you know, it will retain the soil and stuff like that, but, you know, other types of grasses
<br />like Guinea grass and California grass and things like that will retain the soil from coming down.
<br />The thing about it is, is that the Clem Akina Park, usually is the flat area, it absorbs, not
<br />necessarily absorbs, it's run-off into the street area. The drainage down there as far as, you
<br />know, that's supposed to go I guess into the river, you know, is always plugged. For some
<br />reason, it cannot contain the capacity of water being drawn from that area. It forms kind of like,
<br />there's tributaries, and then after that it pockets right into the Clem Akina Park area.
<br />Now, the thing about it is, as far as—these are prime agricultural lands. Deep soil, rich soil that
<br />we should be using for, for food, for developing food. For ranching and farming. That's what
<br />we were doing. That's what we were doing at our farm was teaching kids about agriculture,
<br />animal science, and aqua sciences. Teaching them all this stuff We was leasing from
<br />Kamehameha Schools, but I think they got another idea as to what they want to do with that land,
<br />you know, and right now we're in litigation on that. But, the thing about it is, with the Olson
<br />property, that should be maintained as prime agricultural lands. Yes, we have a housing
<br />shortage. Yes, we should be developing houses and stuff like that, but who is it for? Is it for the
<br />local generation that's here right now, or is to for outsiders that have jobs, major jobs, two, three
<br />jobs living in Honolulu that they can transport back and forth without any problem. But, what
<br />about the housing? Who is it for? We have so many Hawaiians—not only Hawaiians. We got
<br />haole people, Filipinos, Japanese, Portuguese, lot of people are on the streets right now. They
<br />have no place to go. A lot of them are being evicted. Why? Because there's no jobs. What if
<br />we created these jobs, you know, in agriculture, animal science, and aqua sciences. Right now,
<br />I'm the Director of the MSU
<br />CLARKSON: Please
<br />ENOCENCIO: the Mobile Slaughter Unit. I just wanted to throw that one in. The Mobile
<br />Slaughter Unit was trying
<br />CLARKSON: —You'll have another, you'll have another opportunity to testify
<br />ENOCENCIO: —Yes, all right
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