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are not in compliance, for anybody to move forward on that property, the time has lapsed, they <br />have to come back. So, it just sits there. It's the appropriate zoning. When somebody is ready <br />to go forward and be able to do a project there, they will have to come back to Commission and <br />Council, and so that was one of the, one of the ideas brought up. But, the way that the speaker <br />spoke was instead of, it almost was as if like we were saying that after a particular time, the <br />ordinance almost in a sense dies, and you have to come back for new conditions. I don't know <br />legally again if we can do that without an action being done. That's why this might be, this <br />current process that we do might be okay in the sense that it just stays there, no one—it's not <br />doing anything, it's not hurting anybody. The misunderstanding that was happening at the last <br />hearing was that, oh, by them sitting there, they don't have to pay, you know, the fair share, and <br />they don't have to pay the impact fees, and they don't have to put in the requirements. That's <br />true, but when they come back in, everything is going to be adjusted to the higher rate, so they <br />actually will have to pay more on fair share rates. The Honolulu Consumer Index is continually <br />rising. It's going to cost more for them to put in the infrastructure. So, it's actually, more <br />detrimental to them to let it sit longer. <br />So, these are the ideas that we have. We're always open to more ideas and suggestions, and <br />again, so what we want to do is kind of get feedback from both the Commissions and then maybe <br />present some more solid proposals of rule changes and code changes, or if everything seems to <br />be going okay now, we just adjust it to be consistent and move forward there. But, anyway, that <br />concludes our presentation. <br />AGUINALDO: Hey, Darrow, how many of those, you know, like you said been sitting 30 years, <br />10 yearsI'm assuming it's just a lot of paper taking up County space that's just sitting, yeah. <br />DARROW: We have— <br />AGUINALDO: —Must be a lot <br />DARROW: —gosh, maybe, we have a several thousand rezonings, and it's unclear if you go <br />back in time how many of those were complied with or not complied with. <br />AGUINALDO: Right. <br />DARROW: So, we kind of just wait and then every so often, we get somebody that comes in <br />any says I want to do something on this property, and we say sorry, you gotta go back to <br />Commission and Council if you want to get a permit approved or do anything. And, you know, <br />so in time, they all come back to us, I mean, because somebody wants to do something. <br />We have some that, you know, it's kind of funny. I'll use an example of one. They came in. <br />They got Industrial zoning. They created a massive junkyard with like literally a thousand cars, <br />you know, on the property, and they can't comply with their conditions, so they want the <br />Director to revert it back to its original zoning, and it's like you can't—you gotta got rid of the <br />cars if you want to revert the zoning. You know, you're doing industrial uses there. So, he's <br />like, oh, you know, what I do now? So, if they end up using the property for what its zoned for <br />and try to revert it, that's going to backfire too `cause we won't initiate that. <br />EXHIBIT E <br />10 <br />