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<br />hundred years old. So it seems to me they pre-date the zoning and I wondered if these enterprises
<br />weren’t grandfathered into the zoning considerations. It appears from that graphic that Ali‘i Ice
<br />and the original Helco power plant, now on standby, and known as the Shipman power plant are
<br />both in open. No consideration for commercial use there? Or for industrial use as is true for the
<br />Suisan property?
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<br />YEE: So as Mr. DeLima had said, in more plain speak, so if, if he has a nonconforming use with
<br />ice house, basically we say he can continue as a ice house. If he moves outside of that, then its,
<br />you’re not conforming anymore. So that’s kind of the, the question at hand is, what can he do,
<br />you know, that’s what Brian’s kinda asked. What can he do besides just an ice house that would
<br />still be within zoning to do, because we’re basically saying now if you stop doing an ice house,
<br />you can’t do anything anymore because it’s in open space. And that’s the quandary that, that
<br />we’re kind of stuck in right now. So, yeah, so basically they’re in open, in open with a
<br />nonconforming use if he continue. I’m not sure if that exactly answered your question.
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<br />CANNON-EGER: Not exactly, but I’ll let it go.
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<br />YEE: Well no, I want us to be clear here that that as long as he continues, for now as it stands,
<br />as long as he continues to operate as the ice house, traditionally what’s been happening, it’s fine
<br />because he’s in a nonconforming situation. We basically, when you stop doing that, you lose that
<br />nonconforming use. Or if he tried to come in and say I wanna do something different, we’re
<br />gonna say no because we don’t want this use here anymore. Right, so that that’s kind of where
<br />we’re in, what Brian was trying to say was are there things within a certain amount, is there
<br />wiggle room outside of the ice house that the owner, property owner could do, is there something
<br />within the wiggle room of Helco’s property that they can do. And it doesn’t have to be that
<br />precise thing that they used to do.
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<br />CANNON-EGER: Traditionally, and I’m talking a hundred years ago okay, having a, an ice
<br />house and a power plant also meant that you had soda bottling and cold storage. Those were
<br />business that went right together. If you had a power house, you had an ice house, you had soda
<br />bottling, you had cold storage. All of these were businesses that went hand-in-hand making use
<br />of the product that one produced for another purpose. I really don’t see why the, why they were
<br />put in open instead of maintaining an industrial, limited industrial category. Thank you.
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<br />GADDIS: Alright, well, I think we’ll go ahead and hear from second member of the public,
<br />Garth Yamanaka. If you can come up.
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<br />YAMANAKA: Good afternoon. Garth Yamanaka, Yamanaka Enterprises. We manage and
<br />represent the ownership at the Hilo Ironworks, kind of in the same situation as described by Mr.
<br />DeLima here. We were, we’re zoned open now, the General Plan LUPAG we’re also open, but
<br />within the land use section of the General Plan we are designated for industrial. But, you know,
<br />we are, because we don’t have a zoning, we are considered nonconforming uses at this point and
<br />I’ll just, wanted to emphasize that it does make it very difficult with our tenants. Makes it
<br />difficult to finance or if we decide we want to sell the property, that’s where it really becomes
<br />very difficult. So I just wanted to ask that you consider us in your discussions or in your thoughts
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