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Commissioner Hetherington said that the application appeared unclear about the exact size of the <br />sign itself and of the background. Ms. Newlon responded that according to the application, the <br />size measured five feet tall by six feet eight inches wide, totaling 32.5 square feet. Ms. Bugado <br />added that the total size appeared to be that of the backboard. However, Commissioner Smith <br />pointed out that on another rendering the sign elements appeared to be directly mounted on the <br />wall. Mr. Hwang interjected confirming that the sign would be made of individual cutouts with <br />no backboard. Commissioner Smith said that since there was no backboard, if polygons were <br />drawn separately around the logo and the name to come up with the total area, it might be within <br />the code allowance. In response to his request to clarify the calculation method, Ms. Bugado <br />said that procedurally the Planning Department accepted the application submitted via <br />Department of Public Works, Building Division (“DPW”), as is, on the supposition that the <br />applicant had already worked it out with DPW. She suggested that either Mr. Tanaka or <br />Mr. Erickson clarify the calculation. Mr. Tanaka requested that he be afforded some time to <br />review the application materials. <br /> <br />Chairman Roth called upon the applicant’s representatives. Ms. Weaver confirmed again that <br />the logo and letter pieces would directly be mounted on the wall surface. She stated that the sign <br />would not be illuminated out of CU Hawai‘i’s respect for its neighbors and for the observatories, <br />and also for the reason that it was open for business only during the day. <br /> <br />Commissioner Sullenberger spoke to share the result of his calculation based on the method that <br />Commissioner Smith had suggested earlier, and said that the three polygons, one for the logo and <br />two for the name, totaled 17.45 square feet, which was within the code allowance. <br /> <br />Commissioner Smith, mentioning that he had driven by the subject property earlier, asked the <br />representatives if the existing temporary banner was representative of the proposed permanent <br />sign. Mr. Hwang answered that they were very close as to the dimensions. Commissioner Smith <br />said that as he was driving by at 35 miles per hour, he was barely able to see the banner sign <br />because of the setback distance, and therefore, he had no concerns about the size as proposed. <br /> <br />Mr. Tanaka, in response to the earlier question about the calculation method, said that Sign Code <br />Section 3-4(a)(3) provided that the total area was to be measured by the outer boundaries of the <br />geometric shape. <br /> <br />Ms. Newlon asked Mr. Tanaka to verify whether or not the logo height and the letter height <br />would also require a variance, although those were not specifically included in the application. <br />Chairman Roth suggested that the Commission review and act on the application as submitted, <br />and that the applicant and DPW sort out the variance requirement on their own. Commissioner <br />Ching pointed out that the letter height was ten inches, which exceeded the allowable nine <br />inches. Chairman Roth responded that the application, however, was not requesting a variance <br />for the letter height. Ms. Bugado and Ms. Newlon clarified that even though the particular <br />request was not stated in the text within the application, based on the specifications the logo and <br />letter height clearly required a variance, and it should be considered requested. <br /> <br />Commissioner Ikeuchi commented that the size mattered to her, and that she was not inclined to <br />support the request as presented. She opined that the guidelines were set for a reason, and that <br />6 <br /> <br />