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MARTIN: The other reason why I got up here, and the fellow stepped out since then, but I did
<br />want to tell you we did provide the Planning Department with some information that they could
<br />give to the public from, that was published by the FCC. So, there isif someone has a concern
<br />about radiation, they can contact and make a complaint with the FCC, and they will check it out.
<br />CLARKSON: Thank you.
<br />AU: Mr. Chair, question. So, answer the question, answer Mr. Raffipiy's question. Did you
<br />guys reach out and try and co -locate?
<br />MARTIN: Yes, there's no towers there. If I could give you a little bit of back-up on this. Back
<br />in probably early 2000's Verizon was contacted by Civil Defense, and they had the lava viewing
<br />area down there, and they didn't have any cell phone coverage, so they asked if they could
<br />provide it so AT&T and Verizon both put temporary, temporary cell towers down there, and they
<br />did it—the County went to the State, got the proper, got a grant to use that property for the cell
<br />phone towers, and that cell phone tower only covers just a small area around that. Its right next
<br />to the church there, and it only covers a small area. As a matter of fact, most of the people that
<br />use that tower actually have to drive to it in order to use it, so the temporary cell phone tower
<br />that's down there can't be upgraded for the current technology.
<br />So, and also it doesn't, like I said, it's got limited coverage. So, the—when this last lava event
<br />happened, Civil Defense came to Verizon Wireless and said to hey, we really have to get service
<br />to Sea View Estates. And so, that, this project was actually put on hold, but because of that
<br />request, it was resurrected. There's not that many people out there to really support a cell phone
<br />tower financially, but this is a community service that Verizon really wants to do and that was
<br />the reason why it was so important to them to be able to cover not only Sea View Estates, but
<br />also Black Sands Estates. That's why the placement was so, so much better, and the
<br />radiofrequency engineer is going to be happy that you chose that, the location that you did,
<br />because they said it's going to provide them with better coverage.
<br />CLARKSON: Thank you.
<br />AGUINALDO: So, the panel, just to add on to her question, there's no cell tower down there.
<br />They did put up one in Kapoho right next to, little bit past Green Lake, behind an orchard there.
<br />It got taken down by lava. I didI, you know, if you guys don't know what is a COW, COW is
<br />Cell on Wheels, so on my property at that time, you know, these guys came first, was I think T -
<br />Mobile. So, they brought their COW from, all the way from Oahu, and concerns is important,
<br />but at this moment is like what Dean said, is the overall. And, down there, there's no cell
<br />coverage. Trust me, guys. I live in that area. You squinting just for one bar, just boomp—you
<br />cannot even call in Sea View. The only way is through texting. That's the only way. It's so, so
<br />hard that there's no other coverage, and what she just said, the recent lava flow, early 2000's is
<br />they had a small COW. COW only goes so high. You only can, you gotta close to `em for even
<br />get one signal. But, like for Mr. Garcia, going back there, I don't know if you know, like CB
<br />radios, get guys which so much frequency. Boom, you can light up a light bulb on someone's
<br />CB radio on their car. It's that serious. You know, on a vehicle. You know, it's moving. If the
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