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so, but, anyways, that's my religion, Kaonohiokala. I practice. I worship to him all the time,
<br /> every day, and, yes. Any more questions?
<br /> LINGER: No more questions. Thank you. Applicant?
<br /> LIM: Good morning, Mr. Alapai.
<br /> ALAPAL Morning, morning, morning.
<br /> LIM: I'm going to ask you some questions that I
<br /> ALAPAL Yes, yeah, no problem, it's all good
<br /> LIM: normally wouldn't ask in other context, but I have to do this as part of your record.
<br /> ALAPAL Yeah, no worries, no worries.
<br /> LIM: The traditional and cultural practices that you've mentioned in your intervention, and
<br /> maybe you can help me read the writing, but it looks like that you're saying that "including but
<br /> not limited to limu seaweed, salt, `opihi," it's fishing?
<br /> ALAPAL Oh, yes, throw net, yeah, all this, yes, yes.
<br /> LIM: "Fishing as well as customary surf at said property?"
<br /> ALAPAL Yes, correct, yes.
<br /> LIM: Okay. No further questions other than maybe the prayers that you offer daily, is that done
<br /> at the property? At the subject property?
<br /> ALAPAL Sometimes when I'm there in the area picking `opihi or pipipi, you know, yeah.
<br /> LIM: Approximately how many times do you go in a year, let's say, to the property?
<br /> ALAPAL Pretty much a lot. I'm there, I'm there, well, close to it, every day, and to time in a
<br /> little bit more further, I guess, where the property is, right next to that property, my grandfather,
<br /> Keawe Alapai, and Mary Arthur Spinney, lived right there, where the blue house is, that octagon
<br /> house, right there, that's where they lived. They lived, they played, they worshiped, everything.
<br /> So, that's, that's for my grandfather. My great-grandfather was a caretaker of the Bali Kai area
<br /> all the way across, before the Bali Kai when he used to work for the Hine family, and he was the
<br /> caretaker of the property. So, from one end of that property to the end where the blue house is,
<br /> my roots run deep from me to my grandfather over here where they lived to my great-grandfather
<br /> caretaking the whole property here. And then when you go back some more, then we hit the
<br /> ruling chiefs, right? Alapai, Keawe, Kamehameha. So, that's how deep I run. Any more
<br /> questions?
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