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CAMPBELL: Good morning, I'm Chad Campbell. I reside in Kailua-Kona, and I grew up <br /> surfing Banyans. I surf there still every, pretty much every day. I'm also part kanaka maoli, so <br /> I'm a cultural practitioner if you will. Surfing is my number; it's who I am, a hundred percent. <br /> I'm no lawyer. Can I ask a question? Is this permit, the permit itself is expired, correct? As far <br /> as <br /> LINGER: Let's go ahead and complete your testimony, and then we can circle back and, if you <br /> have any questions, I'd rather do that. <br /> CAMPBELL: Okay, I'll keep it short. <br /> LINGER: Yeah. <br /> CAMPBELL: In general, I, personally, I would love to see less development along the whole <br /> Kona coastline and more community spaces. Pahoehoe Park is great, you know. That place, the <br /> lot in question or the lot under discussion would be an awesome place for a park for the whole <br /> community, along with Kamaoa Point, which many believe could have been a place of refuge, <br /> right, Pu`uhonua? But aside from that, yeah, less development. For me, in my opinion, is <br /> especially along the coastline, yeah, right? In other places in the world where I've been, they <br /> don't develop along the coastline. There's a road, coastline is community, behind the road is <br /> development. It seems like a good model, you know. That's not us. We have to go through our <br /> laws and stuff And, that's my, that's my feeling as a member of the community, is, it always <br /> seems like these things or it's always the people with—I'm going to look at my notes here, that's <br /> why I'm looking at my phone, I'm not texting—it always seems like the people with the big <br /> money, you know, kind of versus the people that are just trying to go to the beach and hang out <br /> and practice surfing or pray to Akua or go fishing, you know. And, one of the notes here, this is <br /> out of your guys book: "Reason for Request: Although the applicant believes the highest and <br /> best use of the property is for residential condominium apartments of the size and number <br /> proposed ...." Best use for who, yeah? Obviously, for them, for their turnaround or for their <br /> business. And that's fine, you know, you're allowed to run a business. And just—is that the best <br /> for everybody, though, right? For the whole community? Not in my opinion, it's not. That's <br /> my opinion. And my opinion is it's, it would be better as an open space and utilize it in a more <br /> creative way that will benefit the general, the general community at large, not so much the eleven <br /> condos and the people who are fortunate enough or worked hard enough or whatever it is to be <br /> able to afford those, yeah? That's my, that's my thoughts, and that's my feelings on it. <br /> And then just coming from a purely—again, I'm not a lawyer—but according to what I've read, <br /> this permit is expired, and by definition, how can you extend something that is already expired? <br /> It's by definition you cannot extend, if that's the case, yeah? So, I would just request that you <br /> guys stick with the laws. If the thing is expired, they cannot extend, you cannot extend it. They <br /> gotta go through the whole thing. If I, if I missed my taxes, I do have that moment where I can <br /> send and, hey, I need to extend this `cause I'm going to be late; but if I don't put in the extension, <br /> I don't get my taxes in, there are penalties at the end of it, yeah? Same thing with any business <br /> transaction, and that's we're going by the rule of law. I just say you stick to that. If that is the <br /> case, if it's already expired especially, you can't extend it. By definition. And just coming from <br /> 18 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />