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And you're talking about sea rise, and you're saying, oh, well, you can't put that now <br /> because the State is working on this law, but it's not law. But, here, it's because it's a coastal <br /> high-hazard zone. Of more than three feet of wave, it's considered high hazard, so it constantly <br /> gets crashed. And, because they keep eroding our shoreline, we no longer have the inside wave, <br /> and the inside wave you can put keiki-s, little keiki-s there to surf with their kupuna and mothers, <br /> but now you don't have it. So, you really, at Banyans, you really have to be an advanced surfer <br /> to surf there now. They've changed our waves, and it breaks further out, and it's, the waves are <br /> dangerous outside. So, I'm saying—and also, now we find out since 2007 it's now historic. <br /> This Holualoa Bay is Keakealaniwahine, and it's now historic. And, also, because they all did <br /> their illegal seawalls, iwi-s came up. And now you have to do a thorough archaeology study, and <br /> not just study, you have to test the soil. And because it was inhabited by the chiefs, this was a <br /> well-known area. So when you have all the iwi-s, you need to check, because now we have State <br /> constitutional laws that we have as kanaka maoli to protect iwi kupuna. <br /> My husband, he was part of the building of Bali Kai, and he, we, this whole discussion came up, <br /> and he says —well, he was a journeyman carpenter, so he didn't do the laborer part—but, he said <br /> when they did the footing and foundation, he said they was carrying boxes of iwi-s every day. <br /> And when they found the iwi in 2010 —after they did their illegal wall, the iwi showed up in the <br /> shoreline—the DOCARE came, and the surfer said it was weird, Simmy, things were flying out <br /> of his truck, so he just took off I got a call from an ex-DLNR. He said, Simmy, get down there. <br /> There's an iwi problem there, and they're not addressing it. So, as soon as I got there, I called <br /> West Hawaii Today. The surfer said that DOCARE ran away, and they left the iwi in the sun, <br /> and it was, the waves were going to take it away, so they, they covered it with the rocks. I saw <br /> the grave, and, you know, they took a lot of time for this grave. Each rock looked almost the <br /> same; it was almost like square, and then all the edges were rounded, and it was in a rectangular <br /> shape. <br /> UNGER: To <br /> MCMICHAEL: There was over an acre lost. You can see the map. I have it. They lost an acre. <br /> So, the land went further out. <br /> UNGER: I'm not stopping you; I just have a question that might help the Commissioners out in <br /> making our decision here. In particular, can you in your, in your presentation, can you talk about <br /> how your interests is distinguished from the general public? I think we really want to hear that <br /> and/or if this project does go through, you know, is there any actual or threatened injury to you? <br /> I think that will help us a lot as part of your presentation, so, so, continue. <br /> MCMICHAEL: Okay. I'm a cultural descendant. My family came here in the 1800's. They <br /> came here as plantationers, restored fishponds, cooked, canoe builders, fishermen. They, they <br /> came to Kohala in the 1800's. Back then, the United States were trying to control the Chinese, <br /> and they had this Newlands Resolution, and if you had a business, you could stay, but if you <br /> were a laborer, you had to prove you were married. So, what they did, my ancestors, lived with <br /> the Hawaiians and married their daughters. I have records to show you that they have a—they <br /> also had a lawsuit in the 1800's with the Kohala Sugar. That's where they were. And they had a <br /> 4 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />