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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – June 25, 2019 <br />out their whole habitat. So utilizing the animals will actually save a lot for our <br />environment in more than one way. <br /> <br />SM: We need somebody like you to work with maybe DLNR to help them to see <br />the big picture. <br /> <br />Because you have already been proving it, you know, in your work, so maybe <br />we can have you help us? <br /> <br />MC: Thank you so much. I would be more than honored to help with a project like <br />this. Like I mentioned, it can be done, it’s gonna take a lot of people and a lot <br />of minds getting together. Cause I’m good with the animals and the grazing <br />and how to keep track of this kind of stuff but, of course, we’ll have to work <br />with a lot of other entities to get all the scientific proof behind what we’re <br />doing and I think we can make it work. I would actually love to do that. <br /> <br />SM: The bird numbers actually went down, you know, the sheep – the sheep is not <br />there. They said this last month’s flier was zero come out. <br /> <br /> This was when the guy that went up for salvage and he told me zero came <br />out, so... If that’s true, I don’t know... <br /> <br />MC: I do have some pictures I brought with me this evening showing actually how <br />the palila bird utilizes the sheep’s wool for their nests. We do have pictures <br />here. I thank my uncle guys for that pictures. They’re really into trying to help <br />this bird and you know they see all this kind of stuff – they got these pictures <br />for me – great, great picture – it shows the wool right in the nest. <br /> <br />MC: First we have the palila bird, of course, all you can see – on the back – this is <br />actually the nest and if you guys want I can bring it up to you guys so you <br />guys can pass it around. I’ll give you guys all the pictures to look. So, right <br />here, this picture – this is actually one our award winning projects that the <br />sheep went through. You look how pristine this forest is. All the trees are still <br />intact – the sheep did the job. Very, very proud of this. <br /> <br />NP: Where is that? <br /> <br />MC: This is actually at the National Guard at KMR. Like I said very, very proud of <br />what the sheep did on this project. These pictures here – not too eye <br />appealing – but this is reality. This is our ecosystem at its best. We have little <br />bugs in here – dung beetles and other insects that is actually food for the <br />birds, for the bats. So... <br /> <br />NP: \[Unclear\] a game bird? <br /> <br />6 <br /> <br /> <br />