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Hawai’i Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – July 30, 2019 <br />JK: They’re involved. There’s a big community involvement – they’ve been <br />working with Nature Conservancy, NOAA and Conservation International. <br /> <br />NP: They really depend on fishing out there. <br /> <br /> And so – what are you gonna do if they go fishing cause, you know, they <br />depend on it so much and then they’re not supposed to. What’s the penalty <br />for a person who lives there and who’s done that forever. <br /> <br />JK: Yes. Right now it’s all in the planning stage. What they’re doing is that they’re <br />– with the help of Conservation International – they’ve been helping Milolii go <br />along the shoreline and do their own surveys – do their own monitoring – <br />counting opihi, counting fish – so that’s where they’re at right now. So that’s... <br /> <br />NP: I’m just wondering what is the penalty if a person violates the whatever... <br /> <br />TN: They haven’t gotten there... <br /> <br /> Let me give you an update. Kaimi Kaupiko has received grants from NOAA, <br />Conservation International and he has a school over there and they get <br />guidance from NOAA, Conservation International and other outside <br />organization. Because they have grants from these organizations they have a <br />guideline to follow and a timeline and so – but they’re doing their own <br />schooling and teaching of the children over there and it’s not about deep sea <br />fishing – it’s about shoreline protection – so that’s what Kaimi Kaupiko is <br />targeting his education program. And he just got $75,000 to do a community <br />kitchen down there from OHA. So he is one of the leaders down there and the <br />kupunas down there are looking up to him to have a future in fishing through <br />conservation means that he’s educating. The next generation and the next <br />generation to have conservation management efforts in Milolii. Hookena has <br />– what is it called – Hookena organization? <br /> <br />JK: Yeah, that’s the opelu. <br /> <br />TN: The opelu koas down Hookena. Their method is different from Milolii and <br />Kaupulehu. Kaupulehu is 100% shut off. Milolii isn’t, nor is Hookena. So <br />Hookena people are opelu fisherman and akule fisherman. <br /> <br /> And they’re looking to protect the koas from tour operators looking for <br />swimming with the dolphins and... <br /> <br />JK: Dolphins... <br /> <br />TN: ....upsetting the koa areas. They need some kind of rules and management <br />so the dive operators and the tour operators are not infringing on their fishing <br />grounds. That’s what’s happening. Correct me if I’m wrong, though... <br />9 <br /> <br /> <br />