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Mr. Robinson: <br />Hawaii Community Foundation has a substantial number of...a <br />different bucket so to speak of contributions that they have that are <br />holding for specific uses. And they always...I think the biggest <br />problem is getting enough people to get that money away to. <br />Mr. Saito: Oh. <br />Mr. Robinson: <br />Mr. Saito: <br />Mr. Robinson: <br />Mr. Saito: <br />It's always something to think about asking them for more. You <br />know I'm curious 2045, zero greenhouse emissions. I know we <br />have three OFR power plants on this island. And I know on some <br />of the other islands they have hydro but we have some hydro here <br />not much. Solar is a big thing. People know green energy is doing <br />wood chips and burning wood chips. So I'm curious...does and <br />there's all the movement toward hydrogen and the work you're <br />doing with hydrogen and then creating out of solar to hydrogen run <br />cars. I'm curious...do you consider greenhouse gas emission plants <br />to be oil fired plants as well as wood chip fired plants? <br />It does...wood chip does... <br />Make greenhouse gas. <br />Yes it does and the offset supposedly...I shouldn't say that. The <br />offset in the calculation is that they're cutting down old trees and <br />planting new trees. And new trees produce more oxygen than old <br />trees. And they're including that to offset the greenhouse gas <br />emission. <br />Mr. Robinson: Okay. So it's not an extractive resource, it's a recreated resource. <br />Mr. Saito: Right. <br />Mr. Robinson: Alright. Okay. <br />Mr. Saito: And really the clean field...the hydrogen work is pretty much <br />something that I'm involving...involved in and leading. <br />Mr. Robinson: We have three of the people that could be considered tech folks to <br />invest. We have...what's his name at Puanahulu? Doing the... <br />Mr. Saito: Hank Rogers. <br />Mr. Robinson: Yeah Hank Rogers doing the... <br />Mr. Saito: Blue Planet Research. <br />13 <br />