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Mr. Saito: <br />Mr. Wiseman: <br />The workshop was actually last week and so I attended. The <br />Ulupono itself has been an environmental stakeholder within the <br />State with clean energy initiatives. Their goal is to have...you <br />know...they've been pushing in legislation...they've been pushing <br />in PUC dockets...and they supported all the government agencies. <br />So the State Energy Office, climate change, <br />transportation...Department of Transportation, highways and <br />DAGS...they funded the conference fee of $1,700, which included <br />the hotel, ground transportation and meals. Along with $1,500 to <br />cover travel costs. <br />Mr. Saito. First of all, welcome to our meeting. And as I <br />understand it...just to summarize for my own understanding. <br />Ulupono, what does it stand for? Does it have a meaning? Do you <br />know? <br />Mr. Saito: Not that I...I don't know the Hawaiian interpretation. <br />Mr. Wiseman: In any event, this was an endeavor to combat the climate change in <br />protecting the island the farthest State. <br />Mr. Saito: <br />Mr. Wiseman: <br />Mr. Saito: <br />Mr. Wiseman: <br />Accelerate... yeah.. . <br />And the reason you're here is cause they made a gift to you...to <br />encourage more support for the conference. <br />To yeah, allow the government agencies to have access to <br />participate in the conference. <br />Right. I can have a good input and outcome. Okay. And again, <br />the reason you're here is...so they made that gift for lodging and <br />other incidentals. And you actually accepted that gift and returned <br />your per diem and stuff to the government, is that right? <br />Mr. Saito: I'm not familiar with how that works, but... <br />Mr. Wiseman: Didn't you deposit the check? <br />Mr. Saito: No. <br />Mr. Wiseman: I thought I saw something. <br />Mr. Saito: I still have it. <br />Mr. Wiseman: Okay. <br />6 <br />