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the 25 year plan? How do you, you know, determine where the boundaries are that you would <br /> allow for development? <br /> MORRISON: We are incorporating the 3.2 foot recommendation that the State report put <br /> together, and so I don't have it reflecting on this map, but we do have it in our, in our mapping <br /> component. And then that doesn't, let's see—the way that we're using that is looking at coastal <br /> hazard areas. We don't have a specific policy saying to apply sea level rise and assume any kind <br /> of managed retreat from that line or anything like that, but we are incorporating it into this <br /> hazard area which will have then the conditions for land use, citing, and design within that area. <br /> ONISHL So again, when you're looking at development, you're looking at a long-term project, <br /> somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 to 60, maybe even 70 years. Given what a lot of people <br /> believe in terms of climate change and sea level rise, this plan may not be incorporating the total <br /> impact of sea level rise over the life of a project. So you may be exposing a potential <br /> development to that impact, right? Because I mean I know on Oahu, in Waikiki, they're talking <br /> about how do they begin to migrate from the coast inland and where inland. Because right now <br /> their map shows flooding all the way up to Ala Wai Canal. So, how do you guys look at this? <br /> Because this is a guiding factor, right, for future development, but that future development has a <br /> long life span. <br /> MORRISON: So I, I'd have to get into all of the different policies and the plan that talk about <br /> sea level rise, but we—the next part of this process, General Plan lays out a kind of a broad <br /> framework and then we get into our codes and our regulations and start to make adjustments to <br /> be in line with that broad framework. And so the broad framework is telling us that we need to <br /> understand these hazard areas and set appropriate conditions and then when we start to go and <br /> look at our codes, and look at our shoreline set back policy, that's the opportunity to have that <br /> more defined, I guess, conversation. And we are working in partnership with the rest of the <br /> counties right now to understand how to best incorporate sea level rise into these codes and <br /> regulations. And so working with City and County certainly, Kauai„ we're all working together <br /> with the Climate Commission to really kind of get into the—now we have the maps, we <br /> understand our vulnerable areas, but it's not as easy as just saying, "Okay from this line makai <br /> we're not gonna have any more developments," it's a little bit more refined than that. So I'm <br /> hoping that we continue these conversations with the Climate Commission folks and other <br /> counties, and in the meantime, we'll be moving forward with the General Plan and then start <br /> doing our code updates so that we can incorporate those kind of best practices about how to <br /> include sea level rise as a shoreline setback policy or as if we're trying to do managed retreat, I <br /> don't think we're going to get to that level, but I think it could be a shoreline setback policy. <br /> ONISHL I guess my concern is that the resort area is very limited in terms of where it is now, <br /> and what you're proposing to continue. But something like sea level rise moving forward 40 <br /> years from now could change that area significantly inland to eliminate lot of that resort <br /> designation. And at this point, there's no, nothing in the plan except I guess where Seaside is that <br /> allows for additional resort development. Whether it gets developed or it doesn't get developed, I <br /> think how would you go about saying, okay, well we won't approve the, because of hazardous <br /> Page 7 of 19 <br /> Banyan Drive Hawaii Redevelopment Agency <br /> August 28,2019 Minutes <br />