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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – September 10, 2019 <br /> <br />TN: This is Teresa in Kona – so have you considered using Mark Driveller? Is <br />there with his goat project and have you considered using this control method <br />of using goats? <br /> <br />KS: I actually met with Mark this morning and Wil Okabe and we had a discussion <br />about that and, ah, we’re gonna be talking more and seeing where Mark’s <br />capabilities will be beneficial to us. So we’re in discussions about that now. <br /> <br />TN: That’s great. So the financial benefit for you folks is it feasible for you folks to <br />use Mark than continued use of herbicide? <br /> <br />KS: That’s something that we’re looking into because his method is similar to <br />mowing but it’s not use of herbicides so we would be interested in talking <br />more about – with Mark and seeing how much it costs and those sort of <br />things. <br /> <br />TN: Thank you very much. That’s great. <br /> <br />NP: I’ve seen the firebreaks in Puuwaawaa and they actually are quite significant <br />when you see ‘em face to face and in Puuwaawaa they seemed heavily <br />herbicide treated to me with all the blue dye, you know, marking where the <br />herbicide has been put so they can see it and, um, it seemed like heavy use <br />of herbicide, in my opinion, so I guess it’s all a matter of opinion of what is <br />heavy use and what is light use of herbicide so that’s... <br /> <br />KS: We do document the amount and how often we use it, we are following the <br />labels... <br /> <br />NP: Maybe over there it’s more heavily used because it’s rock not dust – would <br />that – maybe they’re doing it go lighter because of the dust issue... <br /> <br />KS: Yeah, and mowing is not really an option... so that’s why we have the cattle in <br />the areas as well to reduce the fuels. <br /> <br />NP: But cattle – they do more root damage than goat and sheep I would think – to <br />ohia and whatever’s up there? Don’t they – they’re heavy... <br /> <br />KS: They’re heavier animals... <br /> <br />NP: Yes, pounding on the roots... I think you should use goat and sheep... <br />Anyway, but I do like cattle and I love the wild paniola also so... And the <br />firebreaks that, you know, when you’re using herbicide, I mean, I can’t think <br />how you can possibly avoid affecting some native and also endangered <br />species even like if they’re small, um, what are your concerns there of using <br />herbicide – where there’s native or endangered species in your path? <br />5 <br /> <br /> <br />