2019-10-29 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – October 29, 2019 you’re required to either have NRA safety training or a hunter end training, which has no real safety training involved in it so there’s a vast majority of people who buy guns that don’t get the kind of supervised training and safety education they should have and this is the kind of place that that can be done. Shooting ranges are huge revenue generators for surrounding communities – I’ve done some research and others in our group have too – the kind of venues we have here are – this is our dream list – this is not something that could happen right away – these are the kinds of things that all the members of the shooting and hunting community have said we would like this – we would like a 3-D archery complex, we would like to have sporting plays – some of our members like to shoot long distance – a thousand yard range would be really nice for those. NP: And you’ve got a square mile... JO: And we have a square mile to do that in so, yes... And that is the proposed layout and this is before we realized that we would have to reorient some of the shotgun field orientations so, if you look on the sporting place course it’s a full circle and we did that to minimize the amount of lead mitigation we have to do. Lead is a recyclable material and where we can keep it in the smallest compact area allows us to recover it very efficiently and inexpensively if, if – so that was why that was chosen but it’s gonna have to be a semi-circle at some point, so, yeah. This is typical – a blueprint of a typical pistol range – it probably doesn’t mean much but on the bottom right corner you’ll see a berm – that’s the backstop – this one here – I think it’s showing – I don’t know if I – I can’t read it here but I think it’s 14 or 15 feet. The standard now is 20 feet. And it’s 44 feet deep, which means if it goes up that much higher it’s gonna be at even a greater footprint and that’s one of the reasons that 16-Mile really can’t get any distance because they’re bordered in, you know, they can’t put up a 120 foot deep backstop because then they’ll have only half a range, so... NP: Right... JO: That’s a side elevation of that same kind of set-up so – but you need those kinds of – you need those backstops to be able to not only provide safety, even though what’s behind it is a mountain – but also to, again, collect the lead so that it can be recovered. That left in place is an environmental hazard – lead that’s mined and recovered is money in the bank. This is up at Saddle Road – up at PTA – they’re using a different kind of backstop here – they actually fill these fabric bags with cinder – it could be filled with sand, soil – they make for much higher backstops and sidewalls without as big a footprint. They also really help the lead recovery because once the \[unclear\] ones shot up within a few years you can just pull them off and then put a fresh one upfront and that becomes your way of recycling the materials. That’s the finish one there. OK. Back to our – there is the overall view of the range area in relation to the highway and the resort area. OK. We talked about – this 20