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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – October 29, 2019 <br />DCAB and run our plans through them and through DPW and unfortunately, if <br />anybody knows, it does put a little bit extra time in anything when we start <br />having to look at ADA tie-ins. So... That’s the reason for the delay. <br /> <br />AA: Our previous meeting we had people from the public that address that issue <br />that the salt actually breaks – that is not good for the soil – so what are you <br />guy already using? <br /> <br />MM: We try to use it in areas that we can’t get to like rocky areas and things like <br />that where really soil is not the issue but, um, it became too cost prohibitive to <br />continue using that so we tried it for a little while and then knowing how much <br />salt to put down and what’s the water mixture – but in the areas that we tried <br />it was more rocky areas than anything else of soil issue... <br /> <br />AA: So how was it really working? <br /> <br />AA: How did the vinegar work out for you guys? <br /> <br />MM: We tried with the vinegar – we found this recipe that was vinegar, I believe, <br />Blue Dawn dishwashing liquid and water. It was OK but in areas where <br />animals were around it really messed with their noses, um, it leaves a long, <br />long scent on it, um, when I tried it on my driveway it was the same thing. My <br />animals didn’t like it too much but the issue that we have is no matter what we <br />try everything is still gonna come back – it’s just something that needs to be <br />continued and continued and continued. So what we have to do is identify the <br />solutions that are gonna be a good long term effect, something we can <br />budget for, something we can find readily available cause we have about 162 <br />facilities with about 282 sites throughout the Island. We have almost 550 <br />employees, however, 160 of those employees are in Parks Maintenance and <br />then a still smaller section of that are our park caretakers. For instance, in <br />Puna, we have 17 sites that our park caretakers take care of, yet we only <br />have 9 park caretakers including their supervisor and that’s all the way from <br />Shipman to Isaac Hale up to Volcano for that area so we’re trying to make the <br />most impact that we can with the limited amount of resources we have, which <br />is why I was saying that if this project does expand – Bill 101 does go through <br />and we have to go through zero herbicide use – I believe it was 2023 – then <br />we’re gonna need more manpower to help out with that. We’re also gonna <br />need some assistance from the community in their parks – in their community <br />parks where they area – we’re gonna be asking for help – we’ll be asking for <br />help from the ball teams, we’ll be asking for help from anyone who uses these <br />fields, um, and everybody’s gonna have to understand that a little bit of pokey <br />grass, a little bit of weeds and stuff – they’re still gonna have to make do with <br />it on the fields. <br /> <br />NP: Hopefully funds can come from other locations, I mean, I would think, if a bill <br />passes that should mean allocations of funds. <br />6 <br /> <br /> <br />