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VICENTE: No.
<br />CLARKSON: Please let the record show that this testimony is unsworn testimony. Please
<br />introduce yourself and proceed with your testimony, sir.
<br />VICENTE: Good morning, my name is Dwight Vicente representing the Hawaiian Kingdom.
<br />Part of the record, it says that the Royal Patent was granted June 1st, 1869, so apparently these
<br />lands are not the illegally ceded lands by the banana republic in 1898. So, these lands actually
<br />still fall under the jurisdiction of the Hawaiian Kingdom, meaning this, the State Land Use
<br />Commission and the State, this Commission, does not have jurisdiction over these lands. These
<br />are political questions for the, that fall under the jurisdiction of the Hawaiian Kingdom,
<br />especially since it was not ceded in 1898.
<br />And, the the application that they was just speaking about the opposition would be, they use
<br />the term Native Hawaiian which is defined under the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act. That
<br />is, Hawaiian Homes Commission Act is limited to the 1,750,000 acres of Crown and
<br />Government lands which was illegally ceded. So the term, Native Hawaiian, and the definition
<br />is based on the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, which is a homestead program/Indian removal act,
<br />because they used it both ways here to get the natives off the lands, the leased lands, agricultural
<br />lands, in 1920, so that the terms of the lease as it came up in 1915 to 1920, they would be
<br />removed. So, the adverse, the adverse possession could take hold. Then, you got them
<br />abandoning the land and put on the list of tears, not Trail of Tears like the Indians but the list of
<br />tears where they put you on a—you apply, you get on the list, you probably gonna die on that
<br />list. You're not going to be put on the land.
<br />So, these lands still hold tenant rights to `em, meaning the people that lived on the land has the
<br />right to be on the land. And that's why it's hard to say that people own land. And, they got tax
<br />map key on it. A lot of these guys that claim they own the land are foreigners which the treaties
<br />all ended in 1897, and then, for the U.S., the 1875 Reciprocity Treaty was invalid because King
<br />Kalakaua and the U.S. President did not sign it. And that's where the application of the
<br />Northwest Ordinance started in 1875 under the Reciprocity Treaty.
<br />So, with this, I'll end with the rights of this Kingdom. It's reserved. Thank you.
<br />CLARKSON: Are there any questions for the testifier, Mr. Vicente, today? If not, thank you.
<br />Are there any other people wishing to testify on this application? If not, I'll ask for a motion that
<br />public testimony be closed.
<br />RAFFIPIY: Mr. Chair, can I ask one more question. I'm sorry, but I just—
<br />CLARKSON: Of who? Of
<br />RAFFIPIY: The owner.
<br />CLARKSON: Yeah, please. Mr. Kealoha, could you please
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