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VITOUSEK: Sure, my question for the Planning Director, in a case where we don't have a
<br /> recommendation, what is it that they are contesting? I mean, do they, is,just procedurally I don't
<br /> understand. So, if they were, if you were making a positive recommendation for the SMA, they
<br /> would be contesting that recommendation, but, and if you, you know, because you are not
<br /> making a recommendation here, is there something for them to contest at this time?
<br /> YEE: So procedurally, when, especially when we get a contested case, we typically will hold off
<br /> on recommendation because we want to be able to hear the information from the contested case.
<br /> So it's fairly standard that once that kind of happens, we hold off anyway.
<br /> UNGER: Commissioners, any other questions? Thank you all. You may be seated. We'd like
<br /> to go ahead and open up the hearing to public testimony. I have ten people signed up to testify.
<br /> I'll call up six at a time. Starting from the top, Moana Roy Kuma, Ivy LoGerfo, Cherie Griffore,
<br /> Kenneth Lancaster, Cindy Brooks and Simmy McMichael. Thank you all. If you could raise
<br /> your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth before the Planning Commission?
<br /> TESTIFIERS: Yes.
<br /> UNGER: Thank you. We can start on the right. And, again, I'd like to remind you, again, we
<br /> are not, we are not hearing the, we are not making a motion on the project; we are, we are
<br /> hearing reasons for, specifically for the petition for standing. So,please start.
<br /> P. MCMICHAEL: Paula Simmy McMichael, resident of Ahupua`a Holualoa and Kahalu`u.
<br /> You know, this, I'm not against affordable housing, but maybe put it somewhere other than Alii
<br /> Drive. And then when you do affordable housing, I think it should be a purchase, and you
<br /> should start from the very and very low income because those are the people that would be on
<br /> the verge of being homeless. Give them a break. Why would you want to keep putting it to
<br /> rental? These people are only committed for 20 years. So what happens after 20 years? It's
<br /> Urban, RM; it becomes vacation rental. It's unaffordable. I'm on Alii Drive. I bought my
<br /> house for 200,000. The taxes were only 200 to 400. Now it's close to 7,000 a year. How's my
<br /> mo`opuna-s —I'm never going to sell it—how are they in 50 years going to pay? They will lose
<br /> their land just like all the Hawaiians that used to live on Alii Drive could no longer pay their
<br /> taxes. And if you are talking about retirement, what is social security? Nine hundred dollars a
<br /> month? Where are you going to come up with these taxes? That's all I have to say.
<br /> Oh, I have one more thing to say. When you do this in-house and not the state, state land, when
<br /> you change the zoning, you have to be careful. Not just the zoning, but the density, that matters
<br /> in everything around you, especially in the SMA.
<br /> UNGER: Thank you. Please state your name and area of residence.
<br /> LANCASTER: My name is Kenneth Lancaster. I live across the street from this property, so I
<br /> am directly affected by this property and whatever they do. I see the traffic, I see the conditions,
<br /> I see everything around that area every day from the beginning of the morning to the end of the
<br /> night. I know what is going to happen, if they build here. It is completely irresponsible, if they
<br /> do this, completely. To even try and consider this without the, at least, the byway up top, it's
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