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situation at Konahaiki. At a quarter to seven in the morning, and that big earthquake, I did not
<br /> know that was an earthquake. I thought, "Why are they doing construction on a Sunday
<br /> morning? Why is this big boom?" And the whole water shook. And we continued to surf–is
<br /> that my three minutes? But the security guard started waving us and said, "Wow, that was an
<br /> earthquake, you guys have to get out because there is a possible tsunami." That was a panic. I
<br /> never will forget that because it was a four-wheel drive situation. And when I came home, I saw
<br /> all the damages. We took the upper road and there was like full-on damages. I mean, I, the sea
<br /> is rising. And, you can see, this, Uncle Junior's beach, look at the road, you know. And then
<br /> when we did the Banyans, they said that the middle of Alii Drive centerline was the high tide
<br /> mark, you know.
<br /> And, to be even putting the 50 units here with the flood zone in the middle, the Wai`aha flood
<br /> zone. Let me tell you, I had a flood zone up in Holualoa, and that thing used to, it used to drain
<br /> continuously like a beautiful river. And you have to realize where there was rivers, you had the
<br /> ancient Hawaiians who grew their crops because they needed to be by the waterways. But, when
<br /> –I don't know, it's been like the last maybe 20 years, it's been dry–and then when you have the
<br /> flood, ho, it comes just jamming down and it's like, it's not just water, it's boulders, boulders,
<br /> it's super scary. And you are putting this project above this flood zone, this Wai`aha, the same
<br /> one that I have, and you are going to do mass grading. The file upstairs at the Housing shows
<br /> mass grading. You don't mass grade in a flood zone; you divert, you're going to divert. And
<br /> there's been diversions up on the top with all the coffee plantationers up there. So if you, if you,
<br /> whenever we get those floods, it goes down on Kuakini Highway, and you see those films and
<br /> the cars are all floating, I'm like, oh, my god, that comes from the top. And then there was one
<br /> owner and he said they never had flooding in Royal Poinciana, and his house was just totally
<br /> flooded out, and he fixed it, and then next flood, there was another one right through his house.
<br /> So I'm saying that–and even my neighbors up on the top,they never had the flood go to their
<br /> house, now it's going down their house, now it's going down Hualalai Road, it's crazy. And the
<br /> more construction that you have, you have to be careful of the floodplain. And we cannot
<br /> control it; it's going to be Mother Nature. And it's been lately, I don't know, we've had so much
<br /> rain.
<br /> And another thing is it's agricultural. We need plants. We need trees. This was, this was
<br /> Hawaiian's, the Hawaiian way. When I went to the Cultural Resources Committee
<br /> [Commission], they said, oh, that's just farming over there. Let me tell you, that was a red light.
<br /> Ron Dela Cruz, he was on the Burial Council, oh, my god, he got so angry, I'll never forget it,
<br /> I'll never forget, he said, "Give me a paper, give me a paper," and he got this brown piece of
<br /> paper and he put a dollar sign, and he said, "This is what you are all about. And the Hawaiians,
<br /> they never traded with money; they traded with plants, crops, fishes." And Theresa Donham, she
<br /> was the chief of agricultural, well, she is such a blessing, she said, "When, when are you people,
<br /> you developers, when are you going to embrace the cultural, when are you going to cherish the
<br /> cultural?" And it truly is, because, I'm on Alii Drive, all those guys, they want to spray
<br /> Roundup, you know; I brought a chicken because the chicken eats all the bugs. Boy, did they,
<br /> they blew their mind at me bringing one chicken, and I said, "Wow,just eat the egg." She
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