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Mr. Robinson: Yeah. Everybody ducked. But I mean, you know, sometimes you <br /> gotta break ground if you wanna get somewhere. And if you don't <br /> ask a question... I mean if the State Ethics Board wants to punt it <br /> back to us and say they have no authority or whatever. We could <br /> at least ask. That's my... Cause it just seems that there is no rule <br /> of law. It's just kind of ignored and looked the other way. And <br /> the person stopped at the traffic light and the lights changed but <br /> nobody's gone...so nobody says a word. <br /> Ms. Sumner-Mack: So we would become a petitioner? <br /> Mr. Robinson: We'd become a petitioner. <br /> Ms. Sumner-Mack: But should we petition straight to State Board? <br /> Mr. Robinson: State Ethics Board and that's Rey Graulty. <br /> Ms. Hall: Again. If you wanna petition the State Board, you'd have to do <br /> that as a private citizen. Not as a board. If you wanna initiate a <br /> petition to your own board, then you guys can do that as a board. <br /> But that's two separate procedures. <br /> Mr. Robinson: If we initiate that request to our own board and we put it on our <br /> agenda. They issue an informal advisory opinion that there is a... <br /> Or do we want to issue a formal advisory opinion? What do we <br /> want to do? That's a good question. And if we find that there is a <br /> violation...lack of enforcement of the rule of law. I mean. What <br /> is our option? To find... <br /> Mr. Heintz: Well I think that the counselor is telling us we have to find a <br /> section to stick this under. And of the Ethics Code...and the <br /> Ethics Code is very limited. T mean I guess you could start <br /> saying...well you can looking under fair treatment and say we're <br /> not all the citizens of the County are being treated fairly because <br /> some of them are able to violate the law and not be hauled away <br /> others are not. But I mean, the specific language it's a real stretch <br /> to get it to fit under any of these...that I could see. <br /> Mr. Robinson: So you're saying under fair treatment? <br /> Mr. Heintz: Yeah. I mean they're not enforcing the laws of the County and <br /> State of Hawaii equally. There's a group of people who are <br /> blocking roads and are not being stopped from blocking roads. <br /> There are people who are trying to build a telescope and they are <br /> not being allowed access to the building site. I mean those are the <br /> questions. <br /> 32 <br />