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power beyond the 1,750,000 acres by claiming adverse possession of these Crown and <br />Government lands which the lease ended in 18-1915. Fell under their jurisdiction because they <br />made a statement that somebody now owns these Crown and Government lands, and they're <br />going for a land use change from agriculture to developing. So, it's still illegal because treaties <br />ended in 1898, so anybody who claims, who remains here after 1897, became illegal aliens and <br />they cannot own these Crown and Government lands. Till today, they still don't own the Crown <br />and Government Lands even with the State Land Use Commission and even this Planning <br />Commission. You cannot use their power beyond the 1898 Joint Resolution. And the Federal <br />laws does not apply beyond the 1,750,000 acres. So, if you cite Federal law, it doesn't apply. <br />There's no amendment to the U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 3, Clause 2. So, that's the <br />limits right there. It's questionable because of the constitutional issues involved between the <br />Hawaiian Kingdom and the United States which consist of, till today 13 states under Article I, <br />Section 2, Clause 3. Thank you. <br />CLARKSON: Thank you. Are there any questions for this testifier, for Mr. Vicente from the <br />Commission? Thank you, please be seated. Is there anyone else that hasn't testified that wishes <br />to testify? If not, I'll ask for a motion that public testimony be closed. <br />AU: Mr. Chair, I move for, that public testimony be closed. <br />REPLOGLE: I second. <br />AGUINALDO: Second. <br />CLARKSON: All those in favor? <br />COMMISSIONERS: Aye. <br />CLARKSON: Opposed? Public testimony is closed. There's one follow-up question I would <br />ask of the Cellco Applicant. It just relates to the question that was asked by one testifier as to <br />who the spelling of the name and who you're dealing with as a representative of the landowner. <br />MARTIN: Pastor Raymond Seamon, and that's spelled S -e -a -m -o -n. <br />CLARKSON: S -e -a -m -o -n, Pastor Raymond Seamon. That's all I have. Thank you. <br />GRODZIN: Can we address the comments of opposition? <br />AU: Mr. Chair, I do have some questions as well. <br />CLARKSON: Yes, follow-up questions for the Applicant? <br />AU: Yes. So, what is the process for, just give it to me real brief. I know you can talk about it a <br />lot as far as the site selection for a cell tower or any cell tower, just real briefly. <br />EXHIBIT A <br />15 <br />