2020-01-08 Exh B Hearing Transcript - RTA Kilauea Lodge REZ 19-239

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Government lands that was not ceded in 1898. It still belongs to and fall under the jurisdiction of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Thank you. CLARKSON: Thank you. Any questions from the Commission for this testifier? If not, thank you. And, at this time, continuing our—are there any further testifiers on this matter today? Okay. If not actually, I'll ask for a motion that we close public testimony. DELA CRUZ: I move that public testimony be closed. REPLOGLE: Second. AGUINALDO: I second. CLARKSON: All those in favor? COMMISSIONERS: Aye. CLARKSON: Opposed? Public testimony is closed. So, we've all been presented with a language that has been used in the past as a condition for future improvements along a roadway. AU: Mr. Chair? CLARKSON: Yes? AU: While we are reading this, can I ask Mr. Kern to come to the table? I have a question for him. So, Mr. Kern, I'm sure you guys have gotten, well, if you haven't, I'm sure you guys have gotten proposals for the differences between just getting AC as opposed to concrete, and is that one of the reasons why? Is it because it's expensive as well? KERN: The cost is obviously a concern at any event, but I don't think it's necessarily a cost issue as much as it just doesn't make sense right now. REPLOGLE: It's weird. KERN: It's just weird, yeah. It just doesn't meet the feeling of Volcano Village. Maybe one day when it is all—if and when it is curb, gutter, sidewalk, then it would be, there would be continuity. But, right now, it'd be weird and strange and odd. CLARKSON: So KERN: —And, I think I would like to point out that the, you know, the new owners of Kilauea Lodge, they've been putting money into the lodge, making it nice, cleaning it up, fixing it, really doing, really doing something really, really nice up there. So, it's not way less of a money issue than it is it just doesn't, doesn't fit right now. EXHIBIT B 13