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VAN PERNIS: And if they violate that? <br /> KAY: So, again, the way that in a case of our permits, if there is a suspected violation of <br /> conditions of the permit, we would follow a similar process where we would investigate a <br /> complaint; if it's found that the applicant is in violation of their permit, we work with them to try <br /> and come into compliance; if that does not work,then there is the ability for the Director to bring <br /> the permit back to the Planning Commission for revocation. <br /> VAN PERNIS: And what are the conditions? <br /> KAY: I'm sorry <br /> VAN PERNIS: What are the conditions issued for the job there? <br /> KAY: There are multiple conditions in your recommendation reports <br /> VAN PERNIS: The same as the Director's report? <br /> KAY: Yes, at the end of each recommendation report, there is a statement that says, "Based on <br /> the proceeding findings, it is recommended that this permit request be approved subject to the <br /> following conditions." In the case of the Special Permit, that starts on Page 15. In the case of <br /> the SMA Permit, that starts on Page 10. <br /> I should mention, too, I apologize, since we sent out our background and recommendation to <br /> you, there have been a few other pieces of correspondence that have come in. First and <br /> foremost, there was a set of questions on our recommendation from the applicant. We sent a <br /> response to those. And there was one other correspondence in response to our response. And <br /> then today you received a, pardon me, a written comment from a Wanda Carey. I just want to <br /> point out, it's on a Petition for Standing in a Contested Case Hearing, Ms. Carey was <br /> contemplating filing a petition last week. She decided not to but asked to just submit this <br /> because this is where all of the kind of written justification for her complaint is, or her testimony <br /> is. So those are the documents that have come in since. <br /> VAN PERNIS: Have you received a letter from someone representing themselves as attorney <br /> Mauck? <br /> KAY: Yes. That was part of the application packet that we submitted in the background. It was <br /> a twelve-page legal memorandum around the Religious Land Use and Incarcerated Persons Law. <br /> VAN PERNIS: I want to point out and preface that, as an attorney in Kona for forty years, the <br /> letter of Mr. Mauck is a standard publication and is not at all applicable to this proceeding in that <br /> no church is being denied here, no monastery, no church, and that reasonable conditions as the <br /> Planning Department has recommended is certainly applicable under any version or any <br /> argument of the laws that Mr. Mauck refers to—Mr. Mauck is not a Hawaii attorney by the way. <br /> And, have you got the opinion of Corporation Counsel on this? <br /> 6 <br /> EXHIBIT E <br />