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Ms. Malakaua: The only thing that I recall that was being taught up there was <br />some of the Hawaiian culture by the kia`i. But as far as having <br />classes or having people that are basically supporting these <br />organization and these protesting, I think that what they're <br />basically referring to is the organizations meeting by institutions is <br />like basically DLNR and DHHL. You know them being you know <br />basically... And OHA. OHA was very much in part of this. And <br />I think that there was some question even there that OHA was able <br />to support those that protested it against the TMT. They supported <br />all of their beneficiaries but where were they to support the pro <br />TMT beneficiaries. So again, we're looking at another inequality <br />and if this continues, we're all going to have a real problem. And <br />we're just trying to be proactive. And say hey you guys, this is <br />God's country. We all live together. Can't we all just get along? <br />You know. But it has to start with our leadership. Our leadership <br />has failed us and it's apparent by what's going on around the <br />nation right now. We're not the only ones dealing with this <br />obviously. <br />Ms. Sumner -Mack: I apologize that I didn't mark the spot, but I will find it. But I <br />think if we did investigate, that is something we might want to <br />consider investigating. <br />Ms. Malakaua: Certainly, who was supporting this, you know this illegal action? <br />Should very well be looked at. <br />Mr. Robinson: Yeah, if we're able to get our special counsel, we can... Yeah. <br />Ms. Malakaua: That would be wonderful. Well again we appreciate your time and <br />look forward to hearing from you again. <br />Mr. Robinson: Wait but before you leave. So the Chair would entertain a request <br />to hold this petition in abeyance pending our discussion with Mr. <br />Kamelamela and selection of special counsel. <br />Ms. Sumner -Mack: I so move. <br />Mr. Heintz: Second. <br />Mr. Robinson: So moved and seconded that we hold Ms. <br />Malakaua... okay... Kalakaua. <br />Ms. Malakaua: Queen Malakaua is fine. <br />Mr. Robinson: Yeah. Queen... <br />22 <br />